Torque and Inertia of objects on Inclined plane

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The problem involves two blocks connected by a string over a pulley, with the blocks moving on an inclined plane. The setup includes specific masses, a pulley with a defined radius and mass, and a coefficient of kinetic friction. The goal is to determine the tensions in the string after calculating the acceleration of the blocks.

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  • Exploratory, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use torque and Newton's second law to find the tensions in the string but expresses uncertainty about the method. Other participants question the setup and suggest applying Newton's second law to each block separately.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided numerical answers for the tensions, but there is no consensus on how these values were derived. The original poster is seeking clarification on the calculations and has not yet confirmed their understanding of the setup or the solution process.

Contextual Notes

There is a request for a diagram to clarify the angles and setup of the problem, indicating that visual representation may be necessary for better understanding. The original poster has expressed difficulty in matching their results with the provided answers from a textbook.

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Homework Statement


a block with mass m1= 2 kg, and a block of mass m2 = 6kg are connected by a massless string over a pulley in the shape of a solid disk having radius R = .25m and mass M = 10 kg. These blocks are allowed to move on a fixed wedge of angle pheta = 30 degrees. the coefficient of kinetic friction is .36 for both blocks and pulley. Determine A) the acceleration of the two blocks and B) the tensions in the string on both sides of the pulley.


Homework Equations


well, I already solved part A) I just need help with part B. I used the sumTorque = Ialpha, where alpha = a/R. along with this equation below:


The Attempt at a Solution


well, i wanted to solve for a so i did the following:(note f=coefficient of friction*): -T1Rf+60cos(T2)Rf = 1/2mR^2*(a/R) ====> -T1f +60cos(T2)f = 1/2ma.

M2gf - T1f + 60cosT2f = 1/2Ma
M2gf = M1af + 60cosM2af + 1/2Ma
M2gf = a(M1f + 60cosM2f + 1/2M)
a = M2gf/(M1f + 60cosM2f + 1/2M) = .31 m/s^2

Im not sure how to solve for the Tension though, do i use the same equation??
 
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The answer for B is 7.67 N and 9.22 N.

But I want to know how they got that. Can anybody help please?
 
can anybody help? do I need to explain more?
 
A diagram would be helpful. Are both sides of the wedge at an angle of 30 degrees with the horizontal?

In any case, assuming you've correctly found the acceleration, just apply Newton's 2nd law to each block separately to find the tensions.
 
Im not sure how to put a diagram on this forum, but If i apply Newtons second law, I don't end up with the same Tensions as the book answer.

F = ma
I come up with 6.08 N for T1
 
Show exactly what you did to get the tension. (Until I understand the setup better, I cannot verify your answer for the acceleration.)
 
how do I insert an image so i can show you the picture?
 
One of the icons in the post editing window is for inserting images. Or you can attach a file.
 

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