Torque, rotational inertia and angular acceleartion

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of torque, rotational inertia, and angular acceleration, exploring how these elements interrelate in the context of rotational motion. The original poster attempts to understand the logical connections between these concepts and how they apply in different scenarios.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between torque, rotational inertia, and angular acceleration, questioning how these quantities interact in various situations. The original poster presents hypothetical scenarios to illustrate their confusion about the implications of applying torque when angular acceleration is zero.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide guidance on the importance of understanding units and the implications of applying torque to a body at rest. The conversation reflects a mix of interpretations regarding the effects of torque and inertia, with no explicit consensus reached on the original poster's questions.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about fundamental concepts and their implications, particularly regarding the conditions under which torque results in angular acceleration or not. There is an acknowledgment of the complexities involved in rotational motion and the need for further clarification on these principles.

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Homework Statement



In order to link these into a logical sequence, how do they fit together

Homework Equations



I = rotational inertia a = angular acceleration (I know a different symbol is usually used)
τ= force x moment arm distance

The Attempt at a Solution



so...to get my head around how these interact

Torque is the amount of rotational force applied to a body.

rotational inertia is how much the body will resist this force

angular acceleration is how dpenedne ton these two.

Situation one.

If I applied 5Nm of torque to a body that had a rotational inertia greater than this then the body wouldn't move and its angular acceleration would be 0

Situation two.

If I applied 5Nm of torque to a body that had a rotational inertia less than this then the body would move BUTwhat if it moves at a constant velocity and doesn't accelerate ? It still has 0 acceleration but is moving ?

I unsure how torque can length of moment arm x force AND moment of inertia x angular acceleration

if there is is 0 angular acceleration then moment of inertia x 0 = 0 so ther eis 0 Torque

but if I'm applying 5Nm of toruqe how can there be 0 torque ?

I must have missed something fundamental somewhere
 
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Yeah, it's called units. Look up the units of rotational inertia and angular acceleration.

BTW, applying a torque to a rotating body always acts to change the angular velocity. If the body is rotating at a constant angular velocity, what must the net torque be on the system?

Hint: Angular motion has formulas analogous to those of rectilinear motion.
 
SteamKing said:
BTW, applying a torque to a rotating body always acts to change the angular velocity.
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what happens though if the body isn't rotating and I want to start it rotating but can't apply enough force to do so ? I'm still applying torque though ...aren't I ?
 
Yes, you are. How quickly it starts to rotate depends on the amount of torque you apply and what the inertia of the body is.
 
urbano said:
what happens though if the body isn't rotating and I want to start it rotating but can't apply enough force to do so ? I'm still applying torque though ...aren't I ?

like SteamKing said, yes you are. But the net torque is zero, hence it doesn't rotate or simply some other torque resists the torque you are applying.
 

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