Torque- Vector cross product using both geometric and algebraic methods

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The discussion focuses on calculating the torque produced by a force acting on a lever in a Cartesian coordinate system. The lever, oriented along the y-axis, is 0.5m long, with a force of (3i-5j)N applied at its end. Two methods are used for calculation: the geometric definition of the cross product and the algebraic definition. The calculated torque is -1.5Nm, while the lecturer's solution is -2.5Nm, suggesting a possible error in the lecturer's approach or assumptions about the lever's orientation. Participants agree that there may be a typo in the lecturer's solution.
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Homework Statement


A lever is orientated along the y direction in a Cartesian coordinate system. The length of the lever is 0.5m and one end of it is at the origin of the coordinate system. A (3i-5j)N force applied to the other end of the lever. Calculate the Torque produced by the force acting on the lever about the origin. Do calculation twice, firstly using the geometric definition of the cross product and secondly using the algebraic definition of a cross product

L=(0i+0.5j+0k)m
F=(3i-5j+0k)N

Homework Equations



T=LFsin(theta)

T=L × F


The Attempt at a Solution



theta= 90+59= -149°
mag F= √(3^2+-5^2)= 5.83N
mag L= .5m
LFsin(theta)= .5*5.83*sin(-149)=T=-1.5Nm

&

(0*-5) - (.5*3) =T=-1.5k Nm

My lecturer has a solution of -2.5Nm! Help appreciated

 
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I agree with your answer.
 
I think my lecturer must be putting the lever in the 'i' direction and using theta=-59
 
garyd said:
I think my lecturer must be putting the lever in the 'i' direction and using theta=-59

That's a good guess. There is some kind of typo.
 
Dick said:
That's a good guess. There is some kind of typo.
Thanks for your help.Much appreciated.
 
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