Torque- Vector cross product using both geometric and algebraic methods

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The discussion focuses on calculating torque produced by a force on a lever using both geometric and algebraic methods. The lever, oriented along the y-axis with a length of 0.5m, experiences a force of (3i-5j)N. The calculated torque using the geometric method is -1.5Nm, while the lecturer's solution is -2.5Nm, indicating a possible error in the lecturer's assumptions regarding the lever's orientation and angle. The discrepancy highlights the importance of correctly defining the lever's direction and the angle used in calculations.

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Homework Statement


A lever is orientated along the y direction in a Cartesian coordinate system. The length of the lever is 0.5m and one end of it is at the origin of the coordinate system. A (3i-5j)N force applied to the other end of the lever. Calculate the Torque produced by the force acting on the lever about the origin. Do calculation twice, firstly using the geometric definition of the cross product and secondly using the algebraic definition of a cross product

L=(0i+0.5j+0k)m
F=(3i-5j+0k)N

Homework Equations



T=LFsin(theta)

T=L × F


The Attempt at a Solution



theta= 90+59= -149°
mag F= √(3^2+-5^2)= 5.83N
mag L= .5m
LFsin(theta)= .5*5.83*sin(-149)=T=-1.5Nm

&

(0*-5) - (.5*3) =T=-1.5k Nm

My lecturer has a solution of -2.5Nm! Help appreciated

 
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I agree with your answer.
 
I think my lecturer must be putting the lever in the 'i' direction and using theta=-59
 
garyd said:
I think my lecturer must be putting the lever in the 'i' direction and using theta=-59

That's a good guess. There is some kind of typo.
 
Dick said:
That's a good guess. There is some kind of typo.
Thanks for your help.Much appreciated.
 

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