Tracking or tagging a single atom in a gas

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The discussion revolves around the possibility of tagging or tracking a single atom in a gas composed of identical atoms. Participants explore the feasibility of distinguishing one atom from others, either through isotopic differences or other quantum properties.

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  • Some participants suggest that different isotopes can be used to tag atoms, as seen in applications like PET scans, which could theoretically allow tracking of a single atom in a gas.
  • There is a query about whether atoms of the same kind can be tracked without using isotopes, with a focus on potential quantum properties that might distinguish one atom from another.
  • One participant proposes that spin might be a distinguishing feature, although they express uncertainty about how to track it.
  • Another participant argues that in the framework of quantum mechanics, distinguishing identical atoms may not be feasible for long periods due to decoherence, even if one atom is prepared in a different quantum state.
  • A later reply raises a question about the distinguishability of atomic quanta and discusses the wave nature of matter, noting recent advancements in techniques for investigating single moving atoms.

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Participants express differing views on the feasibility of tracking identical atoms, with some supporting the use of isotopes while others challenge the possibility of distinguishing identical atoms through quantum properties. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the methods and implications of tracking single atoms.

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Limitations include the dependence on definitions of distinguishability in quantum mechanics and the potential for decoherence affecting the ability to track atoms over time.

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Is there currently any way to tag or track a single atom in a gas of the same material?What I mean is there any distinguishing feature of a single atom among the others in a gas, that can be detected... hope I'm making sense.

Thanks.
 
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Well, you can "tag" atoms by simply using different isotopes. This is used for example in PET scans (using e.g. oxygen 15, "normal oxygen" being oxygen 16).
At least in principle it should therefore be possible to track a single atom (using e.g. fluoresence, assuming the different isotopes have slightly shifted energy levels) in a gas.
 
f95toli said:
Well, you can "tag" atoms by simply using different isotopes. This is used for example in PET scans (using e.g. oxygen 15, "normal oxygen" being oxygen 16).
At least in principle it should therefore be possible to track a single atom (using e.g. fluoresence, assuming the different isotopes have slightly shifted energy levels) in a gas.

Thanks f95toli. Is there any technique by which atoms of exactly the same kind can be tracked... not using isotopes...

What I'm getting at is... would it be possible to number the different atoms in a gas... is there perhaps some quantum level property that can be given to one atom that distinguishes it from the rest.
 
learningphysics said:
Thanks f95toli. Is there any technique by which atoms of exactly the same kind can be tracked... not using isotopes...

What I'm getting at is... would it be possible to number the different atoms in a gas... is there perhaps some quantum level property that can be given to one atom that distinguishes it from the rest.

possibly it's spin? I'm not sure how you would go about tracking it though
 
i don't think in the language of quantum mechanics you can do this
 
learningphysics said:
Thanks f95toli. Is there any technique by which atoms of exactly the same kind can be tracked... not using isotopes...

What I'm getting at is... would it be possible to number the different atoms in a gas... is there perhaps some quantum level property that can be given to one atom that distinguishes it from the rest.
Probably not for very long. Sure, you could prepare one molecule in a certain state different from all the rest, but that state would probably decohere quickly.
 
Are atomic quanta distinguishable?

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/75504948/ABSTRACT?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0

One of the cornerstones of quantum physics is the wave nature of matter. It explains experimentally observed effects like interference and diffraction, occurring when an object moves from one place to another along several indistinguishable ways simultaneously. The wave nature disappears when the individual ways are distinguishable. In this case, the particle nature of the object becomes visible. To determine the particle nature quantitatively, the way of the object has to be measured. Here, large progress has been made recently with new techniques, enabling one to investigate single moving atoms in a controlled manner.
 
Thanks to everyone for replying.
 

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