Transfer of charges between 2 conductors

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The discussion revolves around the transfer of electric charges between conductors, specifically in scenarios involving a charged conductor and a grounded individual, as well as the interaction between conductors connected to a battery. The subject area includes concepts of electrostatics and capacitance.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to understand whether charges remain on a conductor after it has been in contact with a charged source and questions the implications of this for safety when interacting with charged objects. They also explore the concept of charge transfer between conductors and the role of capacitance in these interactions.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's questions, with hints and clarifications being offered regarding the concept of capacity and charge transfer. There appears to be a productive exploration of the underlying principles, though no consensus has been reached on the specific scenarios presented.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of distance and connection in charge transfer, as well as the conditions under which charges can be retained or transferred between conductors. The original poster references a textbook problem that raises further questions about charge ratios and transfer dynamics.

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Hi. If a conductor (A) touches another highly charged conductor (B) such as one on the Van De Graaff generator, then I move conductor A via a string away from conductor B. Does conductor A retain the charges that it had gained when it touched the highly charged conductor?

If conductor A does retain the charges, then why does a person touching the Van De Graff generator does not get electricuted when he steps off the insulating platform and onto the ground. Shouldn't the charges that he retained move from his body to the ground and hurt him?

Similarly, if conductor A touches the positive end of say a 100V DC battery, will there be any charges flowing from the battery to conductor A and remain there even after conductor A has been removed from the battery?

I appreciate anybody's help to clarify this for me.

Thanks
 
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Hint: think about "capacity".
 
Thanks vanesche. Actually, I did think about capacity when I wrote the questions. I know that the closer the positive and negative plates are in a capacitor, the more charges they can hold given a certain potential difference. So that means that it takes the negative charges nearby to keep the positive charges from going away and vice versa for the positive charges.

I am thinking that maybe your hint implies that there are no transfer of charges between two conductors without maybe another negative conductor nearby. But I ran into a problem in the book where it asks me what the ratio of the charges on two metal spheres is when they are connected to each other. That problem would mean charges do transfer from one positive conductor to another (say) neutral conductor. Doesn't it?
 
Based on the capacitance formula for a parallel-plate capacitor: ( C=EoA/d ), capacitance would equal 0 as distance between the plates approaches infinity. That means the plates would not hold any charges when they are connected to a battery if the plates are really far away from each other.

But I've read of so many instances where charges do transfer from one conductor to another conductor without a loop (like the charge of one isolated conducting sphere going over to another conducting isolated sphere when they're connected by a wire).

So, I'm confused by what seems to be contradictory circumstances. One is charges from a battery do not seem to go over to plates that are really far apart and the other is charges from one conducting sphere do go over to another conducting sphere no matter how far apart those spheres are as long as they're connected by a wire.
 

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