Trapezoidal rule to estimate arc length error

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Homework Statement
State the integral (do NOT evaluate) to compute the arc length between x = 1 and x = 5 for the function ##y=\frac{1}{x^2}## (already done)

How many intervals are required to numerically compute the integral in to an accuracy of ##10^{-3}## using the trapezoidal rule?
Relevant Equations
##L=\int_a^b \sqrt{1+(\frac{dy}{dx})^2}dx##

##E_T\leq\frac{(b-a)^3}{12n^2}[max |f^{(2)}(x)|]##
I got the first part of it down, $$L=\int_1^5 \sqrt{1+(\frac{1}{x^2})}dx$$

I just want to know if it's right to make your ##f(x)=\sqrt{1+\frac{1}{x^2}}## then compute it's second derivative and find it's max value, for the trapezoidal error formula.
 
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Zack K said:
I got the first part of it down, $$L=\int_1^5 \sqrt{1+(\frac{1}{x^4})}dx$$
Your integrand isn't right. What is ##\frac d{dx}\frac 1 {x^2}##? In your integrand above, it looks like you just squared ##\frac 1 {x^2}##, and forgot to find its derivative.
Zack K said:
I just want to know if it's right to make your ##f(x)=\sqrt{1+\frac{1}{x^4}}## then compute it's second derivative and find it's max value, for the trapezoidal error formula.
 
Mark44 said:
Your integrand isn't right. What is ##\frac d{dx}\frac 1 {x^2}##? In your integrand above, it looks like you just squared ##\frac 1 {x^2}##, and forgot to find its derivative.
Yes sorry I realized that then fixed it.
 
Zack K said:
Yes sorry I realized that then fixed it.
It's still wrong. You need to find the derivative of 1/x^2, square it, and add 1. That will go inside the radical for your arc length integrand.
 
Mark44 said:
It's still wrong. You need to find the derivative of 1/x^2, square it, and add 1. That will go inside the radical for your arc length integrand.
Sigh... now I was thinking of integration.

It should be ##\sqrt{1+\frac{4}{x^6}}=\sqrt{\frac{x^6+4}{x^6}}##
 
Zack K said:
It should be ##\sqrt{1+\frac{4}{x^6}}=\sqrt{\frac{x^6+4}{x^6}}##
That's more like it.

Zack K said:
##E_T\leq\frac{(b-a)^3}{12n^2}[max |f^{(2)}(x)|]##
After you get the integral squared away, there are some tricks you can use to find the max of |f2(x)|. If the function (f2(x)) is increasing on an interval [a, b], its largest value will be at x = b. If the function is decreasing, it's largest value will be at the left endpoint of the interval, x = a.
 
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Mark44 said:
That's more like it.After you get the integral squared away, there are some tricks you can use to find the max of |f2(x)|. If the function (f2(x)) is increasing on an interval [a, b], its largest value will be at x = b. If the function is decreasing, it's largest value will be at the left endpoint of the interval, x = a.
Wow that actually makes so much sense. My biggest issue is once I got the second derivative, I got this large function which seemed annoying to evaluate with x=5 (given that this question could be on an exam). Thank you.