Trig proof: sum of squared cosecants

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The discussion revolves around proving the equation $$\csc^2\left(\dfrac{\pi}{7}\right)+\csc^2\left(\dfrac{2\pi}{7}\right)+\csc^2\left(\dfrac{4\pi}{7}\right)=8$$ using various mathematical approaches, including trigonometric identities and polynomial roots. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and exploration of trigonometric properties.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using complex exponential form and standard trigonometric identities but expresses difficulty in applying DeMoivre's formula.
  • Another participant proposes using the equation $\tan\, 7x = 0$ to find roots of the polynomial $t^6-21t^4+35t^2-7=0$ and relates it to the roots of $\cot^2 nx$.
  • A later reply questions the derivation of the polynomial and provides a series expansion of $\tan(2n+1)x$ to explain the roots of the equation.
  • Further elaboration includes the relationship between $\tan nx$ and its roots, leading to the conclusion that the sum of $\cot^2 nx$ can be derived from the roots of a related polynomial.
  • Participants mention that the roots correspond to specific angles and provide a method to sum these roots, ultimately leading to the desired result.
  • One participant references a similar problem they solved previously, suggesting a connection to the current discussion.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the methods or derivations presented. Multiple competing views and approaches remain, with some participants expressing confusion about the derivations and others providing alternative methods.

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There are limitations in the clarity of the derivations and the assumptions made regarding the roots of the polynomials. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps involved in proving the initial equation.

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Hi! I've tried a couple of approaches with this: converting to complex exponential form and using standard trigonometric identities but have been unable to solve. I suspect DeMoivre's formula applies but I don't see how.Prove $$\csc^2\left(\dfrac{\pi}{7}\right)+\csc^2\left(\dfrac{2\pi}{7}\right)+\csc^2\left(\dfrac{4\pi}{7}\right)=8$$
 
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greg1313 said:
Hi! I've tried a couple of approaches with this: converting to complex exponential form and using standard trigonometric identities but have been unable to solve. I suspect DeMoivre's formula applies but I don't see how.Prove $$\csc^2\left(\dfrac{\pi}{7}\right)+\csc^2\left(\dfrac{2\pi}{7}\right)+\csc^2\left(\dfrac{4\pi}{7}\right)=8$$

you should be able to solve with the following approach ( if there is a problem I shall provide solution tomorrow)

using $\tan\, 7x = 0$ you can find the solution $\tan\, nx$ to be root of $t^6-21t^4+35t^2-7=0$
form the eqaution whose roots are $\frac{1}{t^2}$
you should have the roots $\cot^2 nx$
from this should know the sum of $\cot^2 nx$
add 1 to each term and get the result
 
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kaliprasad said:
using $\tan\, 7x = 0$ you can find the solution $\tan\, nx$ to be root of $t^6-21t^4+35t^2-7=0$

I don't understand how to derive this result.
 
greg1313 said:
I don't understand how to derive this result.
from the series expansion of $\tan (2n+1) x$ we have

$\tan 7x = \dfrac{\tan ^7 x -21\tan ^ 5x + 35tan^3 x - 7\ tan\, x }{7\tan^6 x - 35 \tan ^4 x + 21 \tan ^2 x -1}$

as $\tan7x = 0$ for $x = \dfrac{n\pi}{7}$ n = 0 to 7 so

$\tan\,nx$ is root of$t^7 -21t^5 + 35t^3 - 7t= 0 $

as for n = 1 to 6 $\tan\, nx$ is not zero so
n = 1 to 6 $\tan\, nx$ is root of $t^6 -21t^4 + 35t^2 - 7= 0$
$\cot \, nx$ is root of $(\dfrac{1}{t})^6 -21(\dfrac{1}{t})^4 + 35(\dfrac{1}{t})^2 - 7= 0 $

or $7t^6-35t^4 +21t^2 -1=0$
so $\cot^2 nx$ is root of equation $7t^3 - 35 t^2 + 21 t - 1$ = 0
now $\cot^2 x = \cot^2 6x$
$\cot^2 2x = \cot^2 5 x$
$\cot^2 3x = \cot^2 4x$
so the roots are $\cot^2 x,\cot^2 2x,\cot^2 4x$
so we get sum of roots
$\cot^2 x + \cot^2 2x + \cot^2 4x = 5$ and adding 1 to each term on LHS you get the result

edit: I remembered that I have solved a similar problem at http://mathhelpboards.com/challenge-questions-puzzles-28/cotangent-sum-16172.html
and you can put n = 3 to get the result.
 
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