Trigonometry - finding the appropriate angle

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves finding the least positive angle A for which both cosine and sine are equal and negative. The original poster expresses confusion due to the lack of numerical values typically provided in such problems.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between sine and cosine, with some attempting to manipulate the equation to find a solution. Questions arise regarding the conditions under which both functions are negative and the implications of the angle's quadrant.

Discussion Status

Several participants have offered insights into the problem, with one suggesting a method involving tangent and another confirming the angle of 225 degrees as a solution. However, there is also a recognition of the conditions that must be met for sine and cosine to be negative, leading to further exploration of the problem's constraints.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the intervals where sine and cosine are negative, and the implications of the equation cosA = sinA. Some participants question the validity of certain angles based on the problem's requirements.

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Homework Statement



"Find the least positive value of the angle A for which:

cosA = sinA and both are negative."


Im having some trouble on this one as usually i would be given cosA=-0.2 or something but this has no figures... Any help?
 
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Oh i think i solved it now I divided both sides by cosA to get tan and then added 180 to 45 which gives me 225 - both sin 225 and cos 225 are negative whereas cos45 and sin45 arent
 
david18 said:

Homework Statement



"Find the least positive value of the angle A for which:

cosA = sinA and both are negative."


Im having some trouble on this one as usually i would be given cosA=-0.2 or something but this has no figures... Any help?

? there is no such number! cos(A) is negative for 90o< A< < 270. sin(A) is negative for 180o< A< 360o. cos(A) and sin(A) are both negative for any A between 180o and 270o. But there is no smallest A in that interval!
 
it says cosA=sinA meaning that sin225 is equal to whatever cos225 equals (i checked on calcualtor and they were the same.

The answer book also said 225 so I am pretty sure its right
 
david18 said:
it says cosA=sinA meaning that sin225 is equal to whatever cos225 equals (i checked on calcualtor and they were the same.

The answer book also said 225 so I am pretty sure its right

Then why is the answer not uhm...45?

which can be easily obtained by dividing by cosA
 
The answer can't be 45, because of the precondition that sine and cosine must be negative.
 
How silly of me! I completely overlooked the "sin x= cos x".

Yes, as I said before, sine and cosine are first both negative between 180 and 270 degrees. The smallest value for which sine and cosine are both negative and sin(x)= cos(x) is 180+ 45= 225 degrees.
 

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