Tritium Phosphorescence: Understanding Electron Capture and Phosphor Changes

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the mechanisms of tritium phosphorescence, particularly focusing on the behavior of electrons ejected by tritium and their interaction with phosphor materials. Participants explore the activation of phosphors, the changes that occur upon electron capture, and comparisons to other phosphorescent systems, such as CRT screens.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe the process of radioluminescence, where an incoming particle from radioactive decay excites an electron in the phosphor, leading to light emission when the electron returns to its ground state.
  • There is a claim that the phosphor undergoes a brief change when excited by the electron but returns to its pre-excited state in the long term.
  • One participant expresses interest in the specific changes to the phosphor caused by the electron from tritium, questioning what happens to that electron once it enters the phosphor.
  • Another participant suggests that the energy of the electron is absorbed by the phosphor, raising an electron to a higher energy level before it emits a photon as it returns to ground state.
  • There is a comparison made to CRT phosphor screens, with questions about how they manage charging effects and the role of conductive coatings in discharging excess electrons.
  • One participant notes that CRT screens use a conductive paint to collect electrons and return them to the power supply, raising questions about similar mechanisms in tritium-phosphor systems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and interest in the mechanisms involved, with some agreeing on the basic principles of electron excitation and emission in phosphors. However, there is no consensus on the specifics of how tritium affects the phosphor or the exact nature of electron behavior in these systems.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention potential differences in phosphor materials and their doping, which may influence conductivity and discharge rates. There are also unresolved questions regarding the return path for electrons in tritium-phosphor systems.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying radioluminescence, phosphorescent materials, and the mechanisms of electron behavior in various phosphor systems, including applications in display technologies.

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tritium beta decays to activate a phosphor - how is phosphor changed.
In a tritium phosphor light, such as a tritium gun site, the tritium activates the phosphor with an ejected electron. What happens to that electron after being captured by the phosphor material. How is the phosphor changed.
 
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Joseph M. Zias said:
What happens to that electron after being captured by the phosphor material. How is the phosphor changed.

How is the phosphor changed.

in the long term, it isn't, there is a brief change then it returns to it's pre-excited state

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Radioluminescence occurs when an incoming particle of ionizing radiation collides with an atom or molecule, exciting an orbital electron to a higher energy level. The particle usually comes from the radioactive decay of an atom of a radioisotope, an isotope of an element which is radioactive. The electron then returns to its ground energy level by emitting the extra energy as a photon of light. A chemical that releases light of a particular color when struck by ionizing radiation is called a phosphor. Radioluminescent light sources usually consist of a radioactive substance mixed with, or in proximity to, a phosphor.
 
I understand the activation of the phosphorus atom and its return to its ground state. I was interested in the electron that leaves the tritium to activate the phosphor. Once it enters the phosphor how does it change the phosphor, basically what happens to that electron.
 
Joseph M. Zias said:
I understand the activation of the phosphorus atom and its return to its ground state. I was interested in the electron that leaves the tritium to activate the phosphor

OK

Joseph M. Zias said:
Once it enters the phosphor how does it change the phosphor, basically what happens to that electron.

the electron, or at least it's energy is absorbed and hence the raising of an electron of the phosphor to a higher energy level before it returns to ground state as it releases a photon ( equal ? to the absorbed energy).

@ZapperZ can you help please :smile:Dave
 
I don't know much about this device other than what's available to the public. However, isn't this the same mechanism as the phosphor screen for old CRT TVs? How do they handle the charging effects on the phosphor screen there?

From my understanding is that the UV and even fluorescent light emitted by these devices remove the excess electrons from the phosphor layer via the standard photoelectric effect. Also, these tend to not be pure phosphors. I think they are often doped with Cu or some other metals, which may effect their conductivity and allows them to discharge faster.

I think someone else more familiar with such devices should come in and contribute here.

Zz.
 
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On a CRT the inside of the tube is coated with a conductive paint, primarily graphite. This coating collects the electrons that hit the phosphor, possible after bouncing off, and returns them to the power supply. Also, some may fly out into the air giving that static you could feel.

I expect there may be some return path in a tritium-phosphor system but I don't know what it is or if there is some other effect going on.
 

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