Troubleshooting Overhead Crane Gearbox Issues

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The discussion revolves around troubleshooting issues with the gearboxes of an overhead crane, focusing on the calculations related to torque, power, and gearbox specifications. Participants explore the implications of these calculations in a real-world context.

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  • Technical explanation
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents calculations for the torque required to move the crane, using the formula HP = n*T/5252, and arrives at a torque value of 540 in-lbs, suggesting that the current gearbox has sufficient torque.
  • Another participant questions whether the RPMs should be considered in the gearbox ratio and suggests that the problem may involve additional considerations if it is a homework problem.
  • A third participant confirms the correctness of the initial participant's math and questions the source of the output speed and torque values, providing their own calculations for the motor torque and gearbox output.
  • A later reply clarifies that the output speed and torque values were obtained from the gearbox manufacturer's catalog, indicating confidence in the gearbox's capacity to handle the load.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no clear consensus on the calculations and assumptions regarding the gearbox specifications and torque requirements. Multiple viewpoints and calculations are presented, leading to some disagreement on the interpretation of the data.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the application of the 5252 constant and the interpretation of the gearbox specifications. The discussion includes various assumptions about the calculations and the context of the problem.

SevenToFive
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I have an overhead crane and we are having some issues with the gearboxes that drive the bridge. The total crane weight is 44250lbs and has a 4 ton capacity. The wheels are 13.5 inches in diameter and have a wheel load of 16500lbs. The gearbox is driven by a 2HP electric motor at 1750rpm. The gearbox itself is 30:1, the output speed is 233rpm and 2232in-lbs of torque.
I added the weight of the crane and capacity to give me 52250lbs, and divide it by 4 for each of the wheels of the end truck I get 13062.5lbs.
Using HP = n*T/5252 I can solve for T which should be the torque required to move the crane correct? I then have 5252*2HP/233rpm=T. This gives me a value of T=45.0015ft-lbs which is 540 in-lbs of torque. So our current gearbox has plenty of torque.

Am I on the right path? I haven't done this in awhile.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Shouldn't the RPM's on the gearbox be part of the 30:1 ratio? Is this a homework problem or a real world problem? If it's a homework problem, I would guess, based on the values given, that other things are being asked for in the problem. In any case, power throughout the system in theory, is going to be constant. So, your math is right if that's all you were solving for, power = torque*rotation speed, as long as the 5252 converts it correctly, I think that's right. It put in into more convenient units, HP * 1100 ft lb/s, and 60 RPM = 1 RPS (obviously). Actually, that gives me a different answer unless I did something wrong with my math or units. T = P/omega = 2200 ft lb/s / [233 RPM/(60 RPM/RPS)]

It's been a long time since I had to use this kind of stuff too, but I think that's correct. I'm still not sure where the 5252 came from though.

Anyway, hope that helps.
 
SevenToFive said:
Using HP = n*T/5252 I can solve for T which should be the torque required to move the crane correct? I then have 5252*2HP/233rpm=T. This gives me a value of T=45.0015ft-lbs which is 540 in-lbs of torque.

The math is good and the equation is used correctly with the proper units.

SevenToFive said:
The gearbox is driven by a 2HP electric motor at 1750rpm. The gearbox itself is 30:1, the output speed is 233rpm and 2232in-lbs of torque.
How did you get 233 rpm and 2232 in.lb? This makes 8 hp per the formula above.

The electric motor torque is 6 ft.lb (= 2*5252/1750) or 72 in.lb.
The gearbox rpm and torque are 58.3 rpm (= 1750/30) and 2160 in.lb (= 72*30) or 180 ft.lb. This still makes 2 hp (= 58.3*180/5252), as it should.
 
jlefevre76, this is a project from work that sort of got dumped on me.

Jack Action, I got the 233rpm and 2232in.lb from the gearbox manufacturers catalog.

I think I figured it out and the current gearboxes are large enough to handle the load.

Thanks for looking into this and appreciate the review.
 

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