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[Ms Music]

But Hungarian Wax don't have pretty purple flowers...

You tell your brother to share or I'll take out a pickle hit on him!

Nah, I will let him be a piggy. I make a LOT more money than he does at the moment. He is a general contractor, and the economy has made it tough for him to find work. I let him have most of the veggies in the garden, too. Even though they taste better, I can afford grocery store kale and corn. He pickles and freezes everything. If I was helping can, it might be a different story.

Besides, I think you two would get along.

(Evo - he's single! but wrong coast)

 

[turbo]

Besides, I think you two would get along.

I think so. Is he a guitarist? I have a dearth of local guitarists. When I ran the open-mic jams at local taverns, great guitarists from 30-60 miles away would show up. I don't have much fun playing guitar for myself, and so I'm getting out of practice.

 

[Evo]

But Hungarian Wax don't have pretty purple flowers...

Those are beautiful!

(Evo - he's single! but wrong coast)

I'm in the middle, either coast works for me!

 

[dlgoff]

I'm in the middle, either coast works for me!

 

[rhody]

Ohhh yeah, I can't believe what the warm weather and a little TLC will do, I will have a ton of peppers compared to last year, see for yourselves... Any more takers that want to try some I will send you some seeds, PM please, Don do you want to try a few ?
I just watered the plant after I took these pics and the plants perked right up, they are thirsty little devils while producing fruit.

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1206/peppers2.jpg

http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/8691/peppers1.jpg

I am going to try to cut the bushes way back and keep indoors over the winter for next year, I am getting the hang of this as years go by, but next year will be whatever makes it through the winter and the 880K red habs.

Rhody...

 

[turbo]

Very nice-looking plants, rhody. My chilies are struggling through another very nasty summer - too rainy and cold to start, and a recent hot drought that seems to have stalled everything, even chilies. If you'd send a few seeds my way, I'd be happy to give them a try next season. The Carribean Red Habaneros are doing nothing this year, and my stocks of chili relishes are dangerously low.

Here we are approaching the end of August, and the high-heeled young lady almost wearing a swim-suit and leaning on a BMW is ready to give way to another. ;-)

 

[HeLiXe]

Turbo! I thought about you the other day! I bought a habanero from the supermarket. I put 1/4 of it in a small amount of chicken and it tasted like I did not even put black pepper in there -_- I cannot understand what went wrong with that pepper lol If you're going to sell habs do it right dammit *shakes fist*

 

[turbo]

Turbo! I thought about you the other day! I bought a habanero from the supermarket. I put 1/4 of it in a small amount of chicken and it tasted like I did not even put black pepper in there -_- I cannot understand what went wrong with that pepper lol If you're going to sell habs do it right dammit *shakes fist*

The stuff from the store often sucks! I tried making salsas and chili relishes with store-bought chilies for a few years before we got this place with a nice garden spot. They were crap. Then, the people who had LOVED my relishes and salsas before got very leery of them because suddenly the condiments had some serious heat. I am the only person left that will eat my habanero relish. Actually, my wife will take a bite or two of a hot dog if I have dressed it with habanero relish and hot mustard, but my brother, my neighbor, and another friend/former co-worker have all sworn off. Too hot for them. My brother will dress his cheeseburgers with my jalapeno/garlic relish when he comes for a BBQ, but he steers clear of the habanero relishes.

 

[HeLiXe]

Yeah man ...That stuff sux. I am not exaggerating, it tasted like I put no pepper in it. I would probably steer clear of your habanero relish, but if someone is used to this store stuff they might be hurt later on when they try the real deal lol.

 

[turbo]

Yeah man ...That stuff sux. I am not exaggerating, it tasted like I put no pepper in it. I would probably steer clear of your habanero relish, but if someone is used to this store stuff they might be hurt later on when they try the real deal lol.

The store-bought chilies are probably picked and shipped green and not properly ripened. The chilies that I pick off the plants in my garden are very potent. The first year that I moved here, my organic-gardener neighbor dropped in for a visit and we toured the garden. I plucked a couple of green habaneros and started munching on mine. He took a tiny bite, and was still carrying his chili when he headed back down the road.

I am not real judgemental about the ability to handle chili heat. I had a blue-crowned conure years back that would eat any pepper that you gave her - the hotter the better, and the fresher the better. She'd pick chilies out of her food bowl and gobble them down, ignoring some of her other favorite foods.

 

[Evo]

Rhody, are those your ghost peppers??

 

[rhody]

Rhody, are those your ghost peppers??

Yes, not fully ripe yet, maybe this weekend or next week. I will dry some seeds and send more your way. Turbo, Don, and NeoDevin, I will be putting some in the mail for you guys as well.

If you want peppers in mid late August you need to start them by March at the latest, use a heat mat and decent grow light. Indoors these things succomb to all kinds of maladies, aphids, fungus, rot of some kind or other. One thing that seems to contribute to this is the top of the soil being wet. For that reason, get some kind of pot you can water from the bottom and only water from the bottom, and microwave all the soil you use before you transplant them from starter cups. They seem to like a sparing amount of miracle grow in June or July before they flower. Make sure you harden them before putting them outdoors for good. Once the stalks are as round as a pencil they take off fast.

I am going to do red habs next year and since I will have a ton of seeds from this batch will put some into compare the growth rates. They always seem to do better outdoors after Memorial Day. I plan to take the three plants and cut them way back in September, and bring them indoors. They claim you can get ten years out of the plants, for two of my three this year, it will be their second season producing ghost peppers. Remember, if you pick them before they are ripe, they are not HOT.

\Rhody...

 

[dlgoff]

...Turbo, Don, and NeoDevin, I will be putting some in the mail for you guys as well.

Thanks rhody.

...use a heat mat and decent grow light.

What do you recommend for the light (wattage, etc)?

 

[rhody]

Thanks rhody.
What do you recommend for the light (wattage, etc)?

Don,

I bought one online about three years ago which is a standing frame (about 2 feet long, and the light hangs down from the top of it, about 3 feet high) and the light can be raised and lowered in the frame. Not sure of the wattage, but it puts out frequencies that most plants seem to like, the light appears more pure white that a regular flourescent light. The main reason I use them is to get the plants jump started and growing quickly. A green house (80% F would be ideal) but I don't have one. The light cost some where around 30 or 40 bucks. The bulbs only last 3 or 4 years because they lose their intensity if you use them alot, which I don't. Good luck.

Rhody...

BTW. Bringing in all plants because of the hurricane/tropical storm Arlene that will be heading our way this weekend. I checked them again last night and there is a ton of peppers and at least that many more flowers that will produce even more of them.
Here is an https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=grow+light+stand&tag=pfamazon01-20 to something similar to the grow light with stand that I bought.

 

[HeLiXe]

The store-bought chilies are probably picked and shipped green and not properly ripened.

I think you are right turbo!

 

[rhody]

I have a question, maybe some of you know for sure, maybe not. Since these ghost peppers are hot as hell, I want to know if seeds from fully ripe ones will produce hotter peppers than seeds from less mature ones. I have some ripe and some not. I will taste test a seed fro either type to see if there is a difference. In the meantime any expert advice is appreciated.

Rhody...

 

[turbo]

I have a question, maybe some of you know for sure, maybe not. Since these ghost peppers are hot as hell, I want to know if seeds from fully ripe ones will produce hotter peppers than seeds from less mature ones. I have some ripe and some not. I will taste test a seed fro either type to see if there is a difference. In the meantime any expert advice is appreciated.

Rhody...

I'm no expert on horticulture, but my expectation is that the seeds are delivery packages for the peppers' genetic material, and that any difference in the heat of the next generation of peppers will be a function of how they are treated, how much light and heat they get, etc. Just my 2 cents and it may not be worth even that.

 

[Astronuc]

I read somewhere that the hotness increases when the peppers are stressed. I'm not sure what 'stressed' means, unless it's something like being deprived of water, or getting too much sun.

Of course, the hotness depends on the variety, which depends on the plants DNA and microstructure.

I'll have to try and over-winter the habs in doors - assuming I can keep the cat(s) away. I'm guessing that peppers need at least 10 hrs or so of light per day. They don't seem to do well without direct sunlight.

FYI - http://www.chilliworld.com/FactFile/Scoville_Scale.asp

 

[turbo]

I read somewhere that the hotness increases when the peppers are stressed. I'm not sure what 'stressed' means, unless it's something like being deprived of water, or getting too much sun.

For chilies, I have read that stressing them increases yield, and can mean something as simple as not giving them the amount of nitrogen that other plants need. I'm planning on trying some container-planting with Rhody's seeds in pots that have been depleted of nitrogen by repeated plantings of basil. The article that I read mentioned that if you plant peppers in nitrogen-rich soil, the plants will get very green and bushy, but not flower and set on fruit well. That may be part of my problem with chilies this year, in addition to the extreme weather. I tilled quite a bit of composted cow manure into my garden last fall.

 

[Astronuc]

For chilies, I have read that stressing them increases yield, and can mean something as simple as not giving them the amount of nitrogen that other plants need. I'm planning on trying some container-planting with Rhody's seeds in pots that have been depleted of nitrogen by repeated plantings of basil. The article that I read mentioned that if you plant peppers in nitrogen-rich soil, the plants will get very green and bushy, but not flower and set on fruit well. That may be part of my problem with chilies this year, in addition to the extreme weather. I tilled quite a bit of composted cow manure into my garden last fall.

My approach to peppers and tomatoes is to give them nitrogen in the early part of the season to encourage growth, then phosphates and potash in the middle and later part for flowering and fruiting. That seems to work.

 

[turbo]

My approach to peppers and tomatoes is to give them nitrogen in the early part of the season to encourage growth, then phosphates and potash in the middle and later part for flowering and fruiting. That seems to work.

I might have to try that. I can stockpile wood ashes for early-to-mid summer application.

 

[rhody]

I read somewhere that the hotness increases when the peppers are stressed. I'm not sure what 'stressed' means, unless it's something like being deprived of water, or getting too much sun.

Of course, the hotness depends on the variety, which depends on the plants DNA and microstructure.

I'll have to try and over-winter the habs in doors - assuming I can keep the cat(s) away. I'm guessing that peppers need at least 10 hrs or so of light per day. They don't seem to do well without direct sunlight.

FYI - http://www.chilliworld.com/FactFile/Scoville_Scale.asp

If that is true Astro, then these should prove to be hot because they have wilted in direct sun and been revived at least ten times . I gave them a shot of miracle grow just before they flowered and they produced way more blossoms than last year, I have more drainage in the pot too, so that may be a good thing, not having roots constantly in water appears to make them grow better.

then phosphates and potash in the middle and later part for flowering and fruiting

I will have a look at the miracle grow box and see what percentages they give when you add the stuff. I used good soil, light and fluffy (I microwaved it first before transplanting) and have them in a long box about 3 feet long by about 8 inches tall with big holes drilled in the bottom for good drainage. Beware, if you put these on trek or artificial decks, the heat from the deck material will roast the roots, I put mine on the ground in front of the deck with good access to sun.

I think the July heat helped a lot too, above 95% these things will NOT produce peppers. Finicky little buggers, eh ?

When I send out my seeds to you guys who sent me PM's. I will give you two types, marked, not ripe, and ripe. When you plant them, keep an eye on what differences you see in the two types, hotness, growth rates, etc... It should prove interesting.

Later...

Rhody...

 

[turbo]

When I send out my seeds to you guys who sent me PM's. I will give you two types, marked, not ripe, and ripe. When you plant them, keep an eye on what differences you see in the two types, hotness, growth rates, etc... It should prove interesting.

Later...

Rhody...

Given my luck this year with habaneros, this may not be a very scientific survey, Rhody. I have had a few bumper crops with searing heat, and more recently, some dud seasons with poor yields and less-than-stellar heat. I plan on planting the Ghosts in very large containers and keeping them on the back deck. That will make it very convenient to tend them, as opposed to having to wander on down to the garden and give them special care.

 

[rhody]

Given my luck this year with habaneros, this may not be a very scientific survey, Rhody. I have had a few bumper crops with searing heat, and more recently, some dud seasons with poor yields and less-than-stellar heat. I plan on planting the Ghosts in very large containers and keeping them on the back deck. That will make it very convenient to tend them, as opposed to having to wander on down to the garden and give them special care.

turbo,

That will work just fine, because they need plenty of tending, trust me.

Rhody...

 

[dlgoff]

When I send out my seeds to you guys who sent me PM's. I will give you two types, marked, not ripe, and ripe. When you plant them, keep an eye on what differences you see in the two types, hotness, growth rates, etc... It should prove interesting.

This will be interesting. I can't wait. But how can you tell the difference between 2,000°C and 2,001°C on your lips?

 

[rhody]

This will be interesting. I can't wait. But how can you tell the difference between 2,000°C and 2,001°C on your lips?

You tell me ?! The burn of these peppers is supposedly linked to your http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system" which in turn causes you to sweat, froth at the mouth and in general act as if you were on fire and possessed by the devil . I warn you. I have observed grown men almost cry and pass out after chewing the seeds and flesh of these peppers. The scovile units are supposedly around 1,000,000 or so. You should be able to tell the difference from seeds/flesh that is 750,000 and 1,000,000 but I have no idea how much hotter the not ripe seeds are from peppers created from the ripe ones. We will have to wait to find out for sure.

Rhody...

 

[turbo]

My wife and I surveyed the chili plants today while weeding and setting up a fence for the 2nd crop of peas. Many of the plants have new blossoms on them, there are lots of little habanero peppers hidden under the plants, though they are tiny and green. We would need exceptional luck to get enough sun and heat through the rest of September to expect any of them to ripen properly.

 

[Evo]

turbo,

That will work just fine, because they need plenty of tending, trust me.

Rhody...

They definitely demand love and affection, but when you bring it inside and give it a cold shower every afternoon, the way it perks back up makes it all worth it. I love my ghost pepper. Thanks Rhody!

 

[rhody]

They definitely demand love and affection, but when you bring it inside and give it a cold shower every afternoon, the way it perks back up makes it all worth it. I love my ghost pepper. Thanks Rhody!

I bet some of you were beginning to think I am too anal about caring for ghost peppers. I am glad Evo put an end to that. Thanks... BTW Evo, they like warm water better than cold, 70 - 80 F is just fine, hehe...

Rhody...

 

[Evo]

I bet some of you were beginning to think I am too anal about caring for ghost peppers. I am glad Evo put an end to that. Thanks... BTW Evo, they like warm water better than cold, 70 - 80 F is just fine, hehe...

Rhody...

I put it in the sink and spray it with tap water from the sink hose. It seems to like it since it's summer, the water's not too cold.