Trying to make a cantilever with the highest efficiency

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The discussion revolves around designing a cantilever with the highest efficiency, exploring various models and approaches. Participants raise questions about defining efficiency, applying relevant equations, and understanding the implications of different design choices in structural engineering.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to design a cantilever efficiently without extensive trial and error, seeking equations that dictate design efficiency.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for a specific definition of "efficiency" in the context of cantilevers, suggesting that it is ambiguous without clarification.
  • Participants discuss the Euler Buckling Formula and express confusion regarding the parameters P (load) and I (moment of inertia), with one participant providing specific values for their scenario.
  • Suggestions for efficient designs include using an I-beam cross-section or an hourglass shape, with a later reply proposing a triangular truss for material efficiency, though noting practical limitations.
  • One participant seeks ideas for a research report on the importance and advantages of cantilevers in real-world applications.
  • Another participant highlights the practical advantages of cantilevers, such as providing uninterrupted space below the free end, which is beneficial in certain architectural contexts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on what constitutes efficiency and how to achieve it in cantilever design. There is no consensus on the best approach or definition, and various models and ideas are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific parameters and equations relevant to cantilever design, but there are unresolved questions regarding the application of these equations and the definitions of key terms like "efficiency." Some assumptions about material properties and loading conditions are also implicit but not explicitly stated.

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This discussion may be useful for students and professionals interested in structural engineering, particularly those focusing on cantilever design and efficiency considerations.

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Right now I'm trying to make a cantilever with the highest efficiency. I'm trying to design several models but I have questions:

How can one make one without having to find the best design through numerous times of trail and error? Is there an equation for cantilevers which dictate the efficiency of the design?

How do professional engineers come up with ideas to complete this sort of task?
 
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How are you defining efficiency? "Efficiency" by itself is an ambiguous word. You need to be specific.

Yes. There are standard well defined equations for all types of beams with varying loading and boundary conditions. In pure bending, they all stem from the solutions derived from the differential equation relating moment to shear:

EI\left[\frac{d^4v}{dx^4}\right]=-W_{(x)}

Theory:
http://www.efunda.com/formulae/solid_mechanics/beams/theory.cfm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler-Bernoulli_beam_equation

Solved Equations:
https://ecourses.ou.edu/cgi-bin/ebook.cgi?doc=&topic=me&chap_sec=&page=&appendix=beams
 
efficiency: Total load that the structure held in grams/ mass of structure.

For the Euler Buckling Formula, I do not understand how to get the compressive load P or I. In example problems, the question gives the value of E and the L. Is the P just the load in N? or do you have to calculuate something inorder to get it? and for I.

The load I'm using is 15 kg or 33 pounds. The L is 43 cm and the structure which touches the wall is a sqaure, 5 by 5 cm. How would you apply this to the equation?
 
If that is how you define efficiency, then the only options you have are to change the cross section of the beam or the material choice.

P is the load.

The cross sectional moment of inertia is a calculated parameter. You're looking for Ix.

http://www.efunda.com/math/areas/rectangle.cfm
 
Also, i have another quesiton. I need to write a research report on cantilevers for another class. I need to somehow explain the importance and advantages of cantilevers for the common world. Does anyone have ideas?
 
I suspect a very "efficient" design for a cantilever beam would use an I-beam cross-section, or something like an hourglass shape.
 
A triangle shaped truss should give the least material for a required strength. But I normally can't use these in practice because of the depth required for them.

The most common case you will find is floor beams that are cantilevered out to create a balcony, or roof beams that are cantilevered to create an overhang. An advantage of cantilevers is that they do not require supporting columns at the free end (hence the term "cantilever") so there is un-interrupted open space below the free end which is normally desirable to the public and when column placement at the free end would be impossible for other reasons (balcony at a beach condo on the 40th floor).
 

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