Two colliding particles, finding ratio of M/m

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The problem involves two colliding particles, one with a known mass and initial velocity, and the other with an unknown mass. The objective is to find the ratio of the masses after an elastic collision, where one particle moves at a right angle post-collision.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of conservation laws, particularly momentum and kinetic energy, to find the unknown mass ratio. There are questions about how to handle unknown velocities and the implications of the collision's elastic nature.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the use of variables for unknown quantities and emphasizing the importance of momentum conservation. Some participants express uncertainty about the initial steps, while others provide hints and encourage further exploration.

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There is a reference to a diagram that is essential for understanding the problem setup, but it is not visible to all participants. The lack of specific equations provided in the original post may also be a constraint in the discussion.

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Homework Statement



A particle of mass m and initial velocity v0 collides elastically with a particle of unknown mass M coming from the opposite direction as shown in the left-hand sketch on the next page. After the collision, m has velocity v0/2 at right angles to the incident direction, and M moves off in the direction shown in the sketch. Find the ratio M/m.

Homework Equations



None given, although I'd assume the elastic condition collision equations.

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't even know where to begin.
 
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Have you ever heard of the conservation laws?
 
PeroK said:
Welcome to Physics forums.

Have you ever heard of the conservation laws?

I'm sorry if this question is trivial. It's just I cannot seem to wrap my head around how I can use momentum conservation with kinetic energy conservation to find this ratio, especially when I have no idea what the other velocity is.
 
So you do know where to begin! I can't see any diagram. Where is M moving after the collision?

If you don't know a quantity, then use a variable. Eventually, you should be able to cancel it out of your equations.

What can you say about conservation of momentum in this collision?
 
PeroK said:
So you do know where to begin! I can't see any diagram. Where is M moving after the collision?

If you don't know a quantity, then use a variable. Eventually, you should be able to cancel it out of your equations.

What can you say about conservation of momentum in this collision?

Aah, sorry. Here's the diagram. It's the one to the left under 6.9. (https://goo.gl/Pc87AW)

Momentum is conserved. Don't think there's more to be said than that, is there?
 
irhum31 said:
Aah, sorry. Here's the diagram. It's the one to the left under 6.9. (https://goo.gl/Pc87AW)

Momentum is conserved. Don't think there's more to be said than that, is there?

Hint: Momentum is a vector quantity.

I'm going offline now. I'm sure someone else will pick I up.
 

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