MHB Two dimensional normal distribution

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The discussion focuses on proving that the expectation of the greater of two correlated normally distributed variables, \(X\) and \(Y\), with zero means and unit variances, is given by \(\sqrt{(1-r)\pi}\). The conditional mean for \(X\) when \(X > Y\) is derived through integration over the appropriate half-plane. The correlation coefficient \(r\) is emphasized as a crucial factor in the density function of the joint distribution, which is derived from the correlation matrix. A change of variables is suggested to facilitate the integration needed to compute the expectation. The conversation highlights the importance of considering correlation when analyzing the relationship between \(X\) and \(Y\).
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If $$( X,Y )$$ has the normal distributions in two dimensions with zero means and unit variances and the correlation coefficient $$ r$$, then how to prove that the expectation of the greater of $$X$$ and $$Y$$ is $$\sqrt{(1-r)\pi}$$?
 
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suvadip said:
If $$( X,Y )$$ has the normal distributions in two dimensions with zero means and unit variances and the correlation coefficient $$ r$$, then how to prove that the expectation of the greater of $$X$$ and $$Y$$ is $$\sqrt{(1-r)\pi}$$?

Without loss of generality suppose $X=x>y$ then the conditional mean for $x$ is:

$\displaystyle \overline{X}_y=\int_{x=y}^{\infty} x p(x|y)\, dx$

So:

$\displaystyle \overline{X}=\int_{y=-\infty}^{\infty} \overline{X}_y p(y)\, dy=\int_{y=-\infty}^{\infty}\int_{x=y}^{\infty} x p(x|y)p(y)\, dxdy =\int_{y=-\infty}^{\infty}\int_{x=y}^{\infty} x p(x,y)\, dx dy$

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Geometrically, y= x is a line through the origin. x> y is the half-plane to the right. Given that x> y we want to integrate over that half plane. We can, like zzephod, say that taking y from -\infty to \infty and, for each y, x from y to \infty:
\overline{X}= \frac{1}{2\pi}\int_{-\infty}^\infty\int_y^\infty xe^{-(x^2+ y^2}dxdy.

Or you can take x from -\infty to \infty and y from -\infty to x: \overline{Y}= \frac{1}{2\pi}\int_{-\infty}^\infty\int_{-\infty}^x ye^{-x^2+ y^2}dy dx.
 
suvadip said:
If $$( X,Y )$$ has the normal distributions in two dimensions with zero means and unit variances and the correlation coefficient $$ r$$, then how to prove that the expectation of the greater of $$X$$ and $$Y$$ is $$\sqrt{(1-r)\pi}$$?
I am not a statistician, so I may be misunderstanding something here. But it seems to me that the previous two comments overlook the fact that $X$ and $Y$ are supposed to be correlated, with correlation coefficient $r$. According to Multivariate normal distribution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, the density function in that case is given by $f(x,y) = \frac1{2\pi\sqrt{1-r^2}}\exp\bigl(-\frac12[x\:\:y]\Sigma^{-1}\bigl[{x\atop y}\bigr]\bigr)$, where $\Sigma$ is the correlation matrix $\Sigma = \begin{bmatrix}1&r \\r&1 \end{bmatrix}.$ Then $\Sigma^{-1} = \frac1{1-r^2}\begin{bmatrix}1&-r \\-r&1 \end{bmatrix},$ giving $$f(x,y) = \frac1{2\pi\sqrt{1-r^2}}\exp\biggl(\frac{-(x^2 - 2rxy + y^2)}{2(1-r^2)}\biggr).$$ To integrate that over the region $x>y$ I would make the change of variables $u = x+y$, $v = x-y$, using the fact that $$x^2 - 2rxy + y^2 = \tfrac12(1-r)u^2 + \tfrac12(1+r)v^2.$$
 
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