Two voltmeters in parallel measure these different voltages

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The discussion centers on the phenomenon where two voltmeters connected to a coil in a circuit measure different voltages due to the non-conservative nature of the induced electric field. Specifically, for a coil with N turns, the voltages measured are given by the equations u' = N(dφ/dt) and u'' = (N-1)(dφ/dt). This discrepancy arises from the configuration of the circuit and the routing of the wires, which affects the induced electromotive force (EMF). The paradox is illustrated through Professor Walter Lewin's explanation, emphasizing the importance of understanding the physical layout of the circuit.

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I'm currently studying induction law and circuits with inductors. I came however with the following circuit:

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Now my text says the following:

"Unlike what your intuition might tell you, oscilloscopes 1 and 2 will measure different voltages. For a N-turn coil you will get

$$u' = N\frac{d\phi}{dt}$$
$$u'' = (N-1)\frac{d\phi}{dt}$$
"

How is that possible? I'm having trouble on understanding why this results are obtained. I understand (I think) that the oscilloscopes will measure different values because the induction E field is non conservative. But I don't understand their computation. How does the left side sees one coil less than the right side?
 

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I might be wrong, but if the wires are physically laid out as the circuit diagram shows, then the wires connecting up to ##u''## form a loop in the opposite direction around the coil, thus inducing an EMF in those wires which is in the opposite direction to one turn of the coil.
 
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Granger said:
Unlike what your intuition might tell you, oscilloscopes 1 and 2 will measure different voltages. For a N-turn coil
I have two words for you... "Z-Lead Probes" :smile:

(Oh, and that should be "For an N-turn coil"...

http://i.stack.imgur.com/cbLXI.png

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berkeman said:
I have two words for you... "Z-Lead Probes" :smile:

(Oh, and that should be "For an N-turn coil"...

http://i.stack.imgur.com/cbLXI.png

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@berkeman With the OP's sketch, the problem is not the leads.(It is because EMF's are being generated depending on how the wires are routed). This is a very good example of Professor Walter Lewin's paradox. Please see the video in post 52 of the "link" that I posted. Professor Walter Lewin explains it completely in his video.
 
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