U-Channel Diagrams in QFT: A Closer Look

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The discussion revolves around the absence of u-channel diagrams in quantum field theory (QFT) as illustrated in a specific reference. Participants are examining the interaction vertices and conservation laws related to nucleon and antinucleon interactions.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the reasons why u-channel diagrams cannot be formed in certain interactions, questioning the implications of conservation laws on the types of diagrams possible. They discuss the nucleon-nucleon and nucleon-antinucleon cases, raising specific queries about the physicality of proposed diagrams.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the conservation of quantum numbers and the implications for diagram types. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of interaction vertices and the distinguishability of particles, but no consensus has been reached on the u-channel scenario.

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There are references to specific figures and diagrams in the provided notes, which may influence the understanding of the problem. Participants are also considering the implications of indistinguishability in particle interactions.

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The interaction vertices don't allow for a u-channel diagram where the final state nucleon and antinucleon cross. You can check this by trying to draw such a diagram by starting with the initial and final state lines and then trying to insert vertices to connect them. If you consider the nucleon-nucleon interaction, you would find t and u-channel diagrams, but no s-channel.
 
fzero said:
The interaction vertices don't allow for a u-channel diagram where the final state nucleon and antinucleon cross. You can check this by trying to draw such a diagram by starting with the initial and final state lines and then trying to insert vertices to connect them. If you consider the nucleon-nucleon interaction, you would find t and u-channel diagrams, but no s-channel.

I think I see why there is no s channel in the nucleon nucleon case. Is this because, if there were an s channel diagram, we would have 2 [itex]\psi[/itex] particles on the left of the 1st vertex and 0 [itex]\psi[/itex] particles on the right? Since the number of psi particles is a quantum number, it must be conserved and so this diagram is unphysical.

I tried applying a similar argument to the u channel diagram in the nucleon-antinucleon case but I just cannot see why it won't work! Can you elaborate please?
 
latentcorpse said:
I think I see why there is no s channel in the nucleon nucleon case. Is this because, if there were an s channel diagram, we would have 2 [itex]\psi[/itex] particles on the left of the 1st vertex and 0 [itex]\psi[/itex] particles on the right? Since the number of psi particles is a quantum number, it must be conserved and so this diagram is unphysical.

Yes the interaction vertex conserves the nucleon number.

I tried applying a similar argument to the u channel diagram in the nucleon-antinucleon case but I just cannot see why it won't work! Can you elaborate please?

To form a u-channel diagram, you would need to have a vertex that turned a nucleon into an antinucleon, but this violates nucleon number.

We can also note that for the n-n interaction in Fig 9, the u-channel is just a permutation of the final state momenta when compared to the t-channel. This is possible because the nucleons are indistinguishable. In the nucleon-antinucleon case, we can't just swap the momenta because the states are distinguishable.
 

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