Unbiased estimator/MSE from a Gamma dist.

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The discussion revolves around the maximum likelihood estimator (MLE) for a parameter of a gamma distribution, specifically focusing on whether the estimator is unbiased and how to calculate its mean squared error (MSE). Participants explore the theoretical aspects of bias and MSE in relation to the gamma distribution.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants present the MLE for the parameter theta as theta-hat = xbar/4, derived from the gamma distribution f(x;θ) = x³e^(-x/θ)/(6θ⁴).
  • There is uncertainty about how to determine if theta-hat is an unbiased estimator, with questions raised about calculating the expected value of theta-hat.
  • Participants discuss the relationship between bias and MSE, with one stating that bias is defined as E(theta-hat) - theta.
  • Some participants suggest that the mean of the gamma distribution should be 4theta, leading to the equation theta = mu/4.
  • There is a mention of using Bayesian methods to determine MSE, with references to the gamma distribution.
  • One participant questions the notation used, suggesting that it should be f(x|θ) instead of f(x;θ), indicating a potential misunderstanding of the likelihood function.
  • Another participant notes that numerical analysis indicates a small positive bias for MLE estimates of the mean and variance in moderate-sized samples.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the bias of the MLE for theta, with some suggesting it is unbiased under certain conditions, while others indicate the presence of a positive bias based on numerical analysis. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the unbiased nature of the estimator and the calculation of MSE.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding assumptions about sample size and the nature of the data used for estimation. The dependence on specific definitions and the potential for misunderstanding notation also contribute to the complexity of the discussion.

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I have given some serious effort to working out and understanding the MLE of a distribution. From the distribution f(x;\theta)= x^{3}e^{-x/\theta}/(6\theta^{4}), I have gotten the MLE theta-hat = xbar/4

I have a lot of difficulty figuring out if it is an unbiased estimator or not. How do I determine the expected value of theta-hat?
 
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daoshay said:
I have given some serious effort to working out and understanding the MLE of a distribution. From the distribution f(x;\theta)= x^{3}e^{-x/\theta}/(6\theta^{4}), I have gotten the MLE theta-hat = xbar/4

I have a lot of difficulty figuring out if it is an unbiased estimator or not. How do I determine the expected value of theta-hat?

You're saying MLE in the text and MSE in the title. For the Mean Squared Error, you can get a Bayesian minimum. (see Gamma Distribution in the Wiki). You make a Maximum Likelihood Estimate of a parameter, not a distribution. You can write a likelihood function for a distribution.
 
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I'm sorry, I was rushed while typing that up and I'm afraid I wasn't clear. I found the MLE for the parameter theta. I am supposed to test it for all theta for bias and then find the MSE of theta-hat.

Based on the gamma family, the mean of this distribution should be 4theta --> theta = mu/4
Bias is E(theta-hat)-theta, right?

Now, I'm supposed to find the MSE of theta-hat E[(theta-hat -theta)^2] right?
So, am I supposed to use the value of theta based on the distribution? I'll check my work on the expansion and check back later. Thanks for your patience. =)
 
daoshay said:
I'm sorry, I was rushed while typing that up and I'm afraid I wasn't clear. I found the MLE for the parameter theta. I am supposed to test it for all theta for bias and then find the MSE of theta-hat.

Based on the gamma family, the mean of this distribution should be 4theta --> theta = mu/4
Bias is E(theta-hat)-theta, right?

Now, I'm supposed to find the MSE of theta-hat E[(theta-hat -theta)^2] right?
So, am I supposed to use the value of theta based on the distribution? I'll check my work on the expansion and check back later. Thanks for your patience. =)

Your equation has only one parameter so it's a simple exponential distribution (or gamma with k=1). \theta is the reciprocal of the rate parameter which is often written as \lambda. So E|X|=\theta=\frac{1}{\lambda}. Var|X|=\frac{1}{\lambda^2}. For MSE use the Baysian minimum that I referred to earlier. Are you using any dummy (or real) data here?

EDIT: I'm using \theta above as the mean of the distribution F(x;\theta). Otherwise, this is not making any sense to me.
 
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daoshay said:
I have given some serious effort to working out and understanding the MLE of a distribution. From the distribution f(x;\theta)= x^{3}e^{-x/\theta}/(6\theta^{4}),

Are you sure that shouldn't be f(x|\theta)? ie L(\theta|x)=f(x|\theta).

EDIT: OK. I see that k=4. Now for some N you can estimate \theta for the gamma distribution. As far as I know the ML estimate of \theta is unbiased, assuming an unbiased sample. \hat{\theta} =\frac{1}{kN}\sum_{i=1}^{N}x_{i}.
 
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I looked further into the issue of estimator bias for the gamma distribution. Numerical analysis for moderate sized samples indicate a small "upward" or positive bias for ML estimates of the mean and variance.

http://web.uvic.ca/econ/research/papers/ewp0908.pdf

The bias of \hat{\theta} is shown on page 8, equation (14).
 
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