Uncovering Ancient Heathen Burials: Why the SW-NE Orientation?

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The discussion centers around the burial orientations of ancient Germanic and Nordic peoples, specifically the significance of the south-west to north-east alignment of graves and the implications for understanding pre-Christian burial practices. Participants explore the reasons behind these orientations, comparing them with early Christian burial customs and the role of grave goods in different cultures.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the south-west to north-east orientation of graves is a marker of heathen or pre-Christian burial practices but is uncertain about the direction the head points.
  • Another participant explains that early Christian burials typically had bodies oriented with feet to the east and heads to the west, symbolizing resurrection towards the rising sun.
  • A later reply challenges the notion that concern for the physical remains after death was exclusive to Christian practices, citing lavish burials and grave goods among various ancient cultures, including the Vikings and Aztecs.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the extent to which pagan religions focused on physical resurrection compared to Christianity, suggesting that grave goods in Anglo-Saxon and Viking burials may have been more related to social status than religious beliefs.

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Participants express differing views on the significance of burial orientations and the role of grave goods, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

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Some statements rely on assumptions about cultural practices and beliefs that may not be universally applicable, and there is a lack of clarity regarding the specific motivations behind burial customs across different societies.

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When a burial grounds of Germanic and/or Nordic/Germanic people is discovered, archaeologist seem to know that it is heathen or pre-christian by the south-west to north-east orientation of the graves. I can not determine which way the head points though. Does anyone know or have a guess why this tradition was practiced?

updated edit: heads to the south-west
 
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In early christian (through the middle ages) bodies were buried so that when they rose up they would be facing east - the rising sun representing christ/redeemer.
So actualy feet east, heads west - presumably they spring up like someone was pulling the up by the nose.

Of course a lot of non-christian societies worshipped the sun, that's where the christians got the idea from, but worrying about the body after death is generally a christian thing (except forthe egyptians of course!)
 
mgb_phys said:
In early christian (through the middle ages) bodies were buried so that when they rose up they would be facing east - the rising sun representing christ/redeemer.
So actualy feet east, heads west - presumably they spring up like someone was pulling the up by the nose.

Of course a lot of non-christian societies worshipped the sun, that's where the christians got the idea from, but worrying about the body after death is generally a christian thing (except forthe egyptians of course!)

Eeh?
Lavish burials with grave goods to be of use dfor the deceased after death is amply attested among pagans other than just Egyptians.
The Chinese, the early Merovingians, the Vikings, Aztecs and Incas.

In fact, just about every civilization we know about have had ideas andworries concerning the afterlife of a person.

And for many of these, concern for the physical remains of the deceased was also present.
 
I'm not sure that most other pagan religions dealt with the physical resurection to the same extent that christian ones did. It was also moreimportant how you died and they allowed cremations. Grave goods in anglo-saxon/viking burials are thought to be more a status thing than religion.

Of course opinions change and I was thinking mostly of european history.
 

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