Understanding Absolute Pressure Changes in a Simple Buoyancy Problem

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The discussion revolves around a buoyancy problem involving an object suspended in water and the changes in absolute pressure at the bottom of the water as the object is lifted out. Participants explore the relationship between the object's position, the height of the water column, and the pressure exerted at the bottom.

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  • Participants question whether the absolute pressure changes when the object is lifted out of the water, considering the effects of the air column above the water. They discuss the relationship between the height of the water column and the pressure at the bottom, as well as the implications of displacing water when the object is submerged.

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The discussion is active, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants offer insights into the relationship between water displacement and pressure, while others seek clarification on specific aspects of the problem. There is no explicit consensus, but guidance is being shared regarding the effects of submerged objects on water height and pressure.

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Participants are navigating assumptions about pressure changes in relation to atmospheric pressure and the effects of water displacement. The original poster's question and subsequent inquiries indicate a focus on understanding these concepts without definitive conclusions being drawn.

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Homework Statement


An object suspended in water is lifted out of the water. How does the absolute pressure at the bottom of the water change?


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Wouldn't the absolute pressure not change if the object is still directly over the water? Because I thought the entire air column weighed down on the water, so the object would as well. No?
 
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If you take the object out of the water, how does the height of the water change? Also, the pressure at the bottom of a collum of water is the product of it's density, g, and the height of the water in the container.

P = dgh

If you have a scale, do the experiment for yourself. Put a container of water on the scale, suspend an object in the water, then pull it out and see if the weight changes.
 
but doesn't the air column above push on the surface of the water which pushes on the bottom?
also, say submerging an object makes the water height h0. Is the pressure at the bottom with submerged object higher, lower or the same as the pressure at the bottom of a water column at height h0 (no submerged object)
gracias!
 
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but doesn't the air column above push on the surface of the water which pushes on the bottom?
also, say submerging an object makes the water height h0. Is the pressure at the bottom with submerged object higher, lower or the same as the pressure at the bottom of a water column at height h0 (no submerged object)
gracias!

Yes, the air above the water will push on the surface, but it is just going to be at atmospheric pressure. It won't change.
 
thanks! could you please answer my other question too?
 
When you submerge the object, it will displace some water and push up the water a bit. The greater depth of water causes a greater pressure at the bottom.
 
What i mean is if the depth of water is the same in both situations but in one situation, the water encloses an object.
 
In that case, the pressure at the bottom will remain the same.
 
Thank you flatmaster!
 

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