Understanding Different Quantum Interactions

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This discussion centers on the complexities of quantum mechanics (QM), particularly regarding the interaction between electrons and protons in an atom. The conversation highlights that while the energy levels and wavefunctions of electrons are often described using simplified models, a more accurate representation requires the formulation of the Lagrangian function for the electron's Dirac field and the bosonic electromagnetic field. This approach reveals that the interactions are not instantaneous and continuous as simplifications suggest, but rather involve complex calculations to determine bound states.

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I'm an undergrad physics student trying to wrap my head around basic QM ideas, and the question I had was this: when we talk about the energy levels of an atom and the wavefunction of the electron around that atom, we talk about an electric potential that affects the shape the wavefunction takes. How do the protons in the nucleus interact with the electron in a seemingly non-quantized way, with a potential that is well-defined, instantaneous and continuous throughout space. Shouldn't there be a photon traveling between them and some time for information to be communicated from the nucleus to the electron? Is this just a simplification of how the atom works?

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jackferry said:
Shouldn't there be a photon traveling between them and some time for information to be communicated from the nucleus to the electron? Is this just a simplification of how the atom works?

Yes, it is a simplification. If you were to do it without approximations, you'd first have to write the Lagrangian function for the system that consists of Dirac field of the electron, the nucleus, and the bosonic electromagnetic field they both interact with. Then you'd find the bound states of that system, which is not at all a simple calculation.
 

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