Understanding Donald O. Hebb's Theory of Cell Assemblies

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The discussion revolves around Donald O. Hebb's theory of cell assemblies, specifically focusing on the mechanisms of synaptic strengthening when neurons fire simultaneously. Participants explore the conditions under which this strengthening occurs and the implications of different firing sequences among neurons.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether simultaneous firing means that neuron A causes neuron B to fire while still firing itself, or if different neurons (C and D) independently cause A and B to fire simultaneously.
  • Another participant clarifies that Hebb's rule states "neurons that fire together wire together," explaining that if neuron A fires before neuron B, the synaptic strength between them may increase, while if B fires first, the strength may not change or could decrease.
  • It is suggested that multiple neurons can influence the firing of a target neuron, indicating that cooperation or competition among neurons can affect synaptic strength.
  • A participant introduces the concept of a BA synapse, implying additional complexity in synaptic interactions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing interpretations of simultaneous firing and its implications for synaptic strength. There is no consensus on the exact mechanisms or conditions under which synaptic strengthening occurs.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the assumptions about the firing sequences and their effects on synaptic strength, leaving open questions regarding the interactions among multiple neurons.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in neuroscience, particularly those studying synaptic mechanisms and Hebb's theory, may find this discussion relevant.

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I just started reading about Donald O. Hebb and his theories about cell assemblies. I am stuck on something really simple. From what I have read, if two neurons have a synaptic connection and they fire simultaneously, then that connection will be strengthened. What I can't understand is this - if neuron A has a connection with neuron B...

Does neuron A fire and cause neuron B to fire, and then while neuron B is firing, neuron A is still firing and that makes it a simultaneous event?
A->B
Or does neuron C cause neuron A to fire while neuron D simultaneously causes neuron B to fire and that's what makes it a simultaneous event?
C->A
D->B
I hope I am making sense. Thanks for any help.
 
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nobody? well, nevermind. I think I got my answer today in class. I believe it's the latter idea.
 
your talking about Hebb's rule right?

The idea is "Neurons that fire together wire together"...however it means that if neuron A is connected to neuron B then if neuron A fires and then neuron B fires => the synaptic strength AB increases(either by myelin sheath or by # of synaptic knobs) however if the neuron B fires before neuron A(either nothing happens or the strength decreases). Note that neuron A may not be the sole cause of neuron B...for example given the letters you stated above. let's say A and C are both connected to B...A may be the weaker neuron but if it fires with C such that B receives both at the same time the AB will also increase.

Also I wouldn't neglect your 2nd example. They would resemble what NeuralNetwork literature calls Cooperation or Competition(inhibition). Hebb's rule is the simplest Rule and it might through Cellular Automaton theory create more complex rules such as the two mentioned previously.

Remember the brain is N-Body problem w.r.t. Neurons.
 
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Thanks for the help! I am glad to see you around again.
 
thank you and i hoped what i said helped. I also forgot to mention that you could have a BA synapse if you wanted to
 

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