Understanding Double Inner Product Calculation in Multivariable Calculus

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The discussion centers on the calculation of the double inner product involving the gradient of a vector field, specifically u=(u,v,w). The original poster is confused about the notation and the validity of their calculations, particularly regarding the use of the same symbol "u" for both the vector and its components. A participant clarifies that the notation for the gradient and its transpose must be consistent and that the ":" symbol likely represents the double inner product, which applies to rank 2 tensors. The conversation highlights the importance of clear notation and understanding tensor operations in multivariable calculus. Overall, the thread emphasizes the need for precise mathematical definitions and notation when performing complex calculations.
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Hi, I'm having trouble understanding how to perform the following calculation:

<br /> u=(u,v,w)<br />

<br /> (\nabla u + (\nabla u)^T) : \nabla u<br />

I get the following by doing the dot product of the first term and then adding the dot product of the second term, but I'm pretty sure it isn't correct.

<br /> 2\left(\frac{\partial u}{\partial x}\right)^2 <br /> + 2\left(\frac{\partial v}{\partial y}\right)^2 <br /> + 2\left(\frac{\partial w}{\partial z}\right)^2 <br />

Could someone please shed some light on how the double inner product should work?
Thanks
 
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Smed said:
Hi, I'm having trouble understanding how to perform the following calculation:

<br /> u=(u,v,w)<br />

<br /> (\nabla u + (\nabla u)^T) : \nabla u<br />
Your notation here doesn't make sense to me. If you are using "u" to represent a vector, don't use the same "u" to represent one of its components. If you are writing \nabla u as, say, a row vector, then [itex[(\nabl u)^T[/itex] would be a column vector and you cannot add them. In general, a vector and its transpose are in different vector spaces and cannot be added. Finally, I don't know what ":" means. Was that supposed to be \cdot?

I get the following by doing the dot product of the first term and then adding the dot product of the second term, but I'm pretty sure it isn't correct.

<br /> 2\left(\frac{\partial u}{\partial x}\right)^2 <br /> + 2\left(\frac{\partial v}{\partial y}\right)^2 <br /> + 2\left(\frac{\partial w}{\partial z}\right)^2 <br />

Could someone please shed some light on how the double inner product should work?
Thanks
 
I think it is related to the definition in section 1.3.2 found here:
http://www.foamcfd.org/Nabla/guides/ProgrammersGuidese3.html

It is for a pair of rank 2 tensors, and is denoted by a :

The \nabla u's used in the original post are interpreted as second rank tensors, and the double inner product is applied between the terms on each side of the :

Haven't got time to check the calculation myself.

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