Understanding Electrochemistry: Anode and Cathode Reactions

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The discussion revolves around the electrochemical processes occurring at the anode and cathode, specifically focusing on the reactions involving oxygen and hydroxide in an electrolytic cell. Participants explore the flow of electrons and the implications for current flow in the presence of dissolved oxygen and ionic substances in water.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant queries the proportion of electrons used in the anode and cathode reactions and whether current flow ceases if all electrons are consumed in these reactions.
  • Another participant suggests that dissolved oxygen is not significant, indicating that typical products of water electrolysis are oxygen and hydrogen, which are products of electrode reactions.
  • A follow-up question asks if all electrons flowing across the electrode boundary participate in the reduction/oxidation reactions and how to calculate the proportion if not all do.
  • One participant asserts that electrons do indeed move across the phase boundary and that current flows through the electrolyte as electrons enter and exit the solution at the electrodes.

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Participants express differing views on the relevance of dissolved oxygen and the mechanics of electron flow, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions regarding the role of dissolved oxygen and the presence of ionic substances in the water, which may affect the interpretation of the reactions and current flow. The discussion does not resolve how to quantify the proportion of electrons involved in the reactions.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying electrochemistry, particularly in understanding the dynamics of electron flow and reactions in electrolytic cells.

TJT
Hi All,

I have a quick - probably quite basic - electrochemistry query I hope you can help with...

I have an anode and a cathode separated by water with current flowing between. There is some oxygen dissolved in the water so the reaction O2 + 2H20 + 4e -> 4OH occurs. Electrons flow out of the anode and into the cathode. At the anode, the electrons are used to convert O2 and H20 to OH (hydroxide). At the cathode electrons are removed to re-form O2 and H2) from the hydroxide?

My query is what proportion of the electrons are used in the anode/cathode reactions? If all the electrons are used for chemical reactions then is there no current flow?

Do you get zero current until you have converted all the O2 to OH? Doesn't seem likely to me but I'm sure I am missing something - I haven't done chemistry for a while...

Also, I know H2O is basically an insulator unless is has ionic substance in it so assume that there is some NaCl in the water and that this doesn't get involved in the reaction...

Would be grateful for any advice :-)
 
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Dissolved oxygen is (almost) irrelevant. Typical products of the water electrolysis are oxygen and hydrogen (and they are products of electrode reactions, just google it).
 
Thanks for the really helpful advice...

I am looking at an experiment which definitely has the O2 + 2H20 + 4e -> 4OH reaction occurring but anyhow, my question is also applicable to the 2H20 -> O2 + 4H + 4e reaction. Do all the electrons flowing across the electrode boundary participate in the reduction/oxidation reactions?

If all then is there no current flowing through the electrolyte occupying the space between the electrodes?

If not all then how can I calculate the proportion?
 
TJT said:
Do all the electrons flowing across the electrode boundary participate in the reduction/oxidation reactions?

Yes, that's how they move across the phase boundary.

If all then is there no current flowing through the electrolyte occupying the space between the electrodes?

Sure there is - electrons go into solution on one electrode and get out of the solution on the other electrode. To do so they have to travel through the solution - that's the current flowing.
 
Thanks for the help - it is appreciated
 

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