Understanding Equivariant Maps in Group Theory

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The discussion centers on the concept of equivariant maps in group theory, particularly in relation to automorphisms. There is confusion about whether an automorphism can also be classified as an equivariant map, with the key point being that for equivariance, the condition f(g.h) = g.f(h) must hold. It is argued that this condition implies that the only equivariant automorphism is the identity map, as other forms do not satisfy the necessary properties. The conversation also touches on the broader implications of group actions on sets and the compatibility of these actions with homomorphisms. Ultimately, the participants clarify their understanding of equivariance and its definitions within the context of group actions.
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Hello,

I have a doubt about equivariant maps in the context of group theory. In particular, if we consider an automorphism of a group G, we would have f(g.h)=f(g).f(h)

I would expect f to be also an equivariant map, but from the definition it wouldn't seem so, because one should have f(g.h)=g.f(h)

Can anyone clarify this issue?
 
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If the automorphism is also equivariant ## f(g\cdot h)=f(g)\cdot f(h)=gf(1_{G})f(h)=g\cdot f(h)##
 
Ssnow said:
If the automorphism is also equivariant ## f(g\cdot h)=f(g)\cdot f(h)=gf(1_{G})f(h)=g\cdot f(h)##

Doesn't that basically prove that the only equivariant automorphism is the identity map f(g)=g ?
 
If you want that your automorphism will be equivariant you must include this in the definition ...
 
i never heard of an equivariant map of a group to itself. this concept to me relates to maps of sets on which the group acts. of course a group does act on itself by translation, but it seems this action is not compatible with any homomophism except the identity.
 
If ##f## is an automorphism of a group then one can define an action by ##g.h## = ##f(g)h##. Since ##f(gh) = f(g)f(h)##, ##f(gh) = g.f(h)##.

More generally groups act on sets. An action satisfies the formal rule: ##(gh).x = g.(h.x)##. This rule says that the action is a homomorphism of ##G## into the group of bijections of ##S##.

##G \rightarrow ## Bijections##(S)##

If ##S## is a group then the action may not only be a group of bijections but it may also be a group of automorphisms. A standard example is the action of a group on itself by conjugation.

In this case,

##G \rightarrow## Automorphisms##(S)##

This is the sense in which an action is usually thought of as being a homomorphism.
 
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I am puzzled Lavinia. It seems to me the fact that f(gh) = g.f(h) does not say f is equivariant for the action g.h = f(g)h. Rather I think one needs that f(g.h) = g.f(h), which would require that f(f(g)h) = f(g)f(h), which is usually false...?

a nice example of an equivariant map in real life is an odd function in calculus like sin, i.e. the group of order 2 acts on the reals by the non trivial element sending x to -x, so equivariance means that f(-x) = -f(x).
 
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I am puzzled Lavinia. It seems to me the fact that f(gh) = g.f(h) does not say f is equivariant for the action g.h = f(g)h. Rather I think one needs that f(g.h) = g.f(h), which would require that f(f(g)h) = f(g)f(h), which is usually false...?

a nice example of an equivariant map in real life is an odd function in calculus like sin, i.e. the group of order 2 acts on the reals by the non trivial element sending x to -x, so equivariance means that f(-x) = -f(x).

Maybe you are right. If one defines the action,g.h, to be f(g)h then (kg).h = f(kg)h = f(k)f(g)h = k.(f(g)h) = k.(g.h). If g = id then f(g) = id since f is a homomorphism. What am I missing? Oh. This meant g.f(h) is multiplication by g not by f(g) in order to be equivariant. So f(g.h) would have to be f(f(g).h) which usually does not work. I misunderstood.

I agree the other does not work.
 
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yes, with this definition is equivariant.
 

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