Understanding Fields in Quantum Mechanics: Electrons, Waves, & Particles

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The discussion centers on the concept of fields in quantum mechanics, particularly how they differ from classical fields. Participants explore the idea of electrons as excitation states of fields, the nature of these fields, and whether there is a distinct field for each fundamental particle or if a unified field theory is possible.

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  • One participant questions the definition of a field in quantum mechanics and whether electrons are created by disturbances in these fields.
  • Another participant explains that quantum field theory involves quantizing classical fields, specifically mentioning the Dirac field and its Fourier transform, leading to the creation and annihilation operators.
  • There is a discussion about the necessity of having separate fields for each fundamental particle, with one participant asserting that distinct fields are required for particles like photons, electrons, quarks, and gluons.
  • Some participants express interest in the concept of a unified field theory, with one mentioning string theory as a potential approach to this idea.
  • A request for references or papers related to the operations discussed is made, indicating a desire for further reading on the topic.

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Participants express differing views on whether a single unified field can exist for all fundamental particles, with some supporting the idea of separate fields while others are intrigued by the concept of a unified theory.

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Limitations in the discussion include assumptions about the definitions of fields and the mathematical steps involved in quantization that remain unresolved.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying quantum mechanics, quantum field theory, or theoretical physics, particularly in relation to the nature of fundamental particles and fields.

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What is a field in quantum mechanics (not the classical version)? And when it is said that an electron is an "excitation state of a field", does that mean that electrons are created by wave or disturbances in a field? Also, is there a different type of field for each fundamental particle, or can it be simplified to one big field?
 
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gk007 said:
What is a field in quantum mechanics
You have to study quantum field theory.

What one does is (roughly speaking) the following. One takes the Dirac field (mathematically it is a classical field), takes it's Fourier transform and translates the Fourier components b(p), b*(p) and d(p) d*(p) into operators. This step is called quantization. For each three-momentum p there are these operators which are related to the creation and annihilation operators in case of the harmonic oscillator. That means a plane wave with a certain momentum p is "created" in the Hilbert space using a creation operator. Attention: there is not only one pair, but two pairs for each p.

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Also, is there a different type of field for each fundamental particle, or can it be simplified to one big field?
One needs a field for each particle, e.g. one field for the photon (4-potential), one for the electron and the positron, one for the quarks (the different colors are treated via indices, so the field becomes a 4-spinor with an additional color-index i=1..3), one for the gluon (4-potential now with a color index a=1..8) etc.

Finding one big field is the dream of theoretical physicists in the context of a "theory of everything". String theory (a much debated, partial controversial issue) comes rather close to this dream, as there is only one string.
 
OK, thanks for clearing everything up :)
 
really, everything?
 
Do you have any papers or references to someone performing those operations? Id be interested to see...
 
Every book on quantum field theory will do.

I recommend
- Ryder
- Weinberg
- Srednicki (draft: http://www.physics.ucsb.edu/~mark/ms-qft-DRAFT.pdf; ; chapter 3 Canonical Quantization of Scalar Fields)
 
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