Understanding Logarithms: Solving Recurrence Relations Explained | O(n log n)

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The discussion revolves around understanding a recurrence relation in the context of logarithmic functions, specifically focusing on the transformation of terms within the relation and their equivalences. The subject area includes recurrence relations and logarithmic identities.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are exploring the equivalence of terms in the recurrence relation, questioning the disappearance of certain constants and the transformation of terms. There is also a focus on the definition and properties of logarithms as they relate to the problem.

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Some participants have provided hints regarding logarithmic definitions and properties, while others are seeking clarification on specific transformations within the recurrence relation. Multiple interpretations of the logarithmic properties are being explored without a clear consensus.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the recurrence relation provided, and there is an emphasis on understanding the definitions and transformations involved in logarithmic expressions.

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I'm having trouble understanding the last two lines of a recurrence relation:

2(log2 n) + kn
= n + log2 n * n

I get the rest of the recurrence relation, but I don't understand how those two became equivalent. Where did k go? Where did + n come from? and what happened to the 2?

Here is the rest of the relation in case it is needed to understand those two lines:
T(1) = 1

T(n) = T(n/2) + T(n/2) + n
= 2 T(n/2) + n

= 2 [2 T(n/4) + (n/2)] + n
= 4 T(n/4) + 2n

= 4 [2 T(n/8) + (n/4)] + 2n
= 8 T(n/8) + 3n

= ...
= 2^k T(n/(2^k)) + k n

Suppose (n/(2^k)) = 1:
Then, n = 2^k => k = log n

= 2^(log_2 n) * T(1) + k n
= 2^(log_2 n) * 1 + k n
= 2^(log_2 n) + k n
= n + (log_2 n) * n

=> O(n log n)
 
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Where did k go? Where did + n come from? and what happened to the 2?

From the rest of the relation:
Suppose (n/(2^k)) = 1:
Then, n = 2^k => k = log n
 
What value do I raise the constant "2" to, in order to resolve the function 2^n?

That is what 2^(log2 n) is saying.
 
@theintarnets: sherrellbc has provided a good hint:
That is what 2^(log2 n) is saying.
i.e. what is the definition of the logarithm?

##a^b=c## then ##\log_a(c)=b## so if you do ##a^{\log_a(c)}## .. what do you get?
(Try it out using base 10.)
 
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Simon Bridge said:
You tell me: what is the definition of a logarithm?

I take it you understand "where the k went" now?

##a^b=c## then ##\log_a(c)=b## so if you do ##a^{\log_a(c)}## .. what do you get?
(Try it out using base 10.)

I was making a comment. I think you mistook me for the OP.
 
I was making a comment. I think you mistook me for the OP.

Yes I did - my apologies :D
Edited.
 

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