Understanding Probability and Particle Behavior in Double-Slit Experiments

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of probability and particle behavior in the context of the double-slit experiment. Participants explore the implications of firing particles through a double-slit apparatus and the resulting probabilities of their paths, considering both classical and quantum perspectives.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that if four particles are fired, one would expect that one out of every two would go through slit 1 based on a 50% probability for each slit.
  • Another participant argues that probability cannot be accurately assessed with only a small number of trials, emphasizing that convergence towards 50% occurs over many trials.
  • A participant highlights that the double-slit experiment involves wave-functions, indicating that particles do not choose a slit but rather go through both slits simultaneously, leading to interference patterns.
  • There is a question regarding the initial setup of the 50% probability and whether the scenario is hypothetical, indicating some confusion about the foundational assumptions of the discussion.
  • Another participant reiterates the complexity of the situation when dealing with quantum particles, noting that they behave as waves and produce interference patterns regardless of the number of particles fired.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how probability applies in the context of the double-slit experiment, with some emphasizing the need for a large number of trials to assess probabilities accurately, while others focus on the quantum mechanical behavior of particles. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing interpretations present.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully agree on the foundational assumptions regarding probability and the behavior of particles in the double-slit experiment, leading to varying interpretations of the scenario presented.

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Hi there,

If I fire four particles from a source to a screen, with a double-slit between and a detector, and each particle has 50% probability going through either slit, I'd find that 1 out of every two would go through slit 1?

But I could fire two particles towards the screen and they both go through slit 2, but then I decide not to fire anymore, so this shouldn't happen in theory as one needed to have gone through slit 1 for the 50% probability going through either slit to hold?
 
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That's not really how probability works... In general after thousands/millions/billions of trials the probability should converge upon 50%, but with only a 2 trial sampling you can't with any accuracy say what the probability of a system is.

For example, with a coin, you would assume there is a 50% probability of landing heads H or tails T. But if you flip a coin 8 times and you get:
H
H
H
H
T
H
T
H

You can't suddenly declare that probability is wrong or that your coin is rigged just because you got 75% heads and 25% tails. If you continued this experiment for thousands of more flips then the numbers would converge to 50-50, assuming there is an equal chance of heads and tails (i.e. the coin isn't rigged)
Now to address more specifically your understanding of the double-slit experiment you need to understand that the particle doesn't randomly pick which slit to go through, the particle is a 'wave-function' and it goes through both slits at the same time and interferes with itself (thus showing the interference pattern). If you only looked at individual slits and nothing else (i.e. the interference pattern on the screen) then you would see a distinct 50-50 pattern emerge (over time). This process collapses the wavefunction at the slit and not at the detector, thus ruining the interference pattern that you would normally see.

So in the case you're describing you can't generalize the process to '1 out of every two would go through slit 1', you have to say that each particles goes through both slits at the same time and interferes with itself.
 
What sets up the probability of the particles being 50% at the start ? also, I don't see what point you're tying to make here. Or is this a hypothetical scenario ?
EDIT: ah I have been beaten to it . I echo what the above post says.
-ibysaiyan
 
StevieTNZ said:
Hi there,

If I fire four particles from a source to a screen, with a double-slit between and a detector, and each particle has 50% probability going through either slit, I'd find that 1 out of every two would go through slit 1?

But I could fire two particles towards the screen and they both go through slit 2, but then I decide not to fire anymore, so this shouldn't happen in theory as one needed to have gone through slit 1 for the 50% probability going through either slit to hold?
If the particles are photons or electrons, it is more complicated because of quantum effects. In these cases, the particle (even if only one) acts like a wave and goes through both slits, with an interference pattern resulting.
 

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