Understanding Riccati's ODE Variant: A Generalized RODE Explanation

  • Context: Graduate 
  • Thread starter Thread starter MathematicalPhysicist
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Ode
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a variant of Riccati's ordinary differential equation (ODE) characterized by the form y' = q_0(x) + q_1(x) y + ... + q_n(x) y^n. Participants explore the naming, properties, and potential methods for solving this non-linear ODE, including numerical approaches and series solutions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the naming of the equation, suggesting it might be called a generalized Riccati ODE.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the need for a more specific name for this type of non-linear ODE.
  • A participant notes the absence of an entry for this equation in Wikipedia, indicating uncertainty about its established nomenclature.
  • It is mentioned that no analytical solution is known for the general case when n > 2.
  • A request for references on the general case is made, indicating interest in existing research or literature.
  • One participant proposes a method of integrating the equation and discusses the potential for generating an infinite sequence for numerical calculations, while acknowledging the lack of an analytical solution.
  • Another method suggested involves using a power series for y, with a condition that the q_i's are analytic and have an overlapping convergence domain, which could lead to a series solution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the naming of the equation or the existence of analytical solutions, with multiple competing views and methods discussed throughout the thread.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations regarding the lack of established terminology, the conditions under which solutions may exist, and the unresolved nature of analytical versus numerical methods for solving the equation.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying non-linear ordinary differential equations, particularly in the context of Riccati equations, as well as researchers looking for methods of solution or references in this area.

MathematicalPhysicist
Science Advisor
Gold Member
Messages
4,662
Reaction score
372
Any one knows how do you call an equation of the type:
[tex]y' = q_0(x)+q_1(x) y+...+q_n(x) y^n[/tex]
Maybe generalized RODE?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Why do you expect a more specific name for this non-linear ODE ?
 
Well I didn't find an entry of this equation in wiki, or I didn't search well enough.

So is this its name?
 
May be, there is no analytical solution known in the general case, for n>2.
 
Do you have any references I can read more on the general case (I mean what has been done already with it)?
 
Well I can do something like integrate the equation and get:
[tex]y = \int q_0(x) dx + \int q_1(x) y dx +...\int q_n(x) y^n dx[/tex]

and plug the y in the left in y in the intergals, I would get an infinite sequence, it maybe be good for numerical calculations, but still not analytical.

I can also plug in a power series with powers of x for y.

I guess all of these methods have been tried before.

If I assume that q_i's are analytic and have an overlapping convergence domain, I can show that there should be a solution in a series form.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 0 ·
Replies
0
Views
4K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
5K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K