Understanding the Chain Rule for Partial Derivatives in Multivariable Calculus

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of the chain rule for partial derivatives in the context of multivariable calculus, specifically in relation to a function defined in spherical coordinates. Participants are exploring the differentiation of a function and its implications for demonstrating harmonic properties.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a formula involving a function \( u^{*}(r^{*},\theta^{*},\phi^{*}) \) and its partial derivative with respect to \( r^{*} \), questioning the correctness of their representation.
  • Another participant acknowledges the calculation as correct but suggests that the notation could be improved by clarifying that the derivative is with respect to the first argument \( \frac{a^{2}}{r^{*}} \) rather than \( r^{*} \).
  • A different participant expresses their goal of deriving the Laplacian in spherical coordinates to demonstrate that \( u^{*} \) is harmonic, indicating a process of differentiation and substitution into the Laplacian.
  • One participant requests further assistance, indicating a need for additional help with the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the best notation for the derivative, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall approach to demonstrating that \( u^{*} \) is harmonic.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the clarity of notation and the assumptions regarding the definitions of the variables involved. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps necessary for deriving the Laplacian.

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[tex]u^{*}(r^{*},\theta^{*},\phi^{*}) = \frac{a}{r^{*}}u(\frac{a^{2}}{r^{*}},\theta^{*},\phi^{*})[/tex]

[tex]\frac{\partial u^{*}}{\partial r^{*}}= \frac{a}{r^{*}}u_{r^{*}} \left( \frac{a^{2}}{r^{*}},\theta^{*},\phi^{*}\right) \left( -\frac{a^{2}}{r^{2*}} \right) - \frac{a}{r^{*2}} u \left( \frac{a^{2}}{r^{*}},\theta^{*},\phi^{*}\right)[/tex]

where [tex]u_{r^{*}}[/tex] is the partial of u w.r.t r*

Did I do this right? Is there a better way of representing [tex]u_{r^{*}} \left( \frac{a^{2}}{r^{*}},\theta^{*},\phi^{*}\right)[/tex]
 
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[tex] Did I do this right? Is there a better way of representing [itex]u_{r^{*}} \left( \frac{a^{2}}{r^{*}},\theta^{*},\phi^{*}\right)[/itex][/tex]
[tex] <br /> Calculation is right but pedantically speaking you mean derivative of u with respect to its first argument which is a^2/r* not r*.<br /> <br /> I don't know what kind of notations mathematicians use for that, symbolic programs like Mathematica would denote it like Derivative[1,0,0]<u>.</u>[/tex]
 
well I'm trying to crank out the laplacian in spherical to show it u* is harmonic. So I'm just trying to differentiate with respect to each component and sub it into the laplacian in spherical and HOPEFULLY get zero.
 
I still need help with this. Is there anybody out there who can help me?
 

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