Understanding the Mathematical Definition of the State Ket Expansion in Sakurai

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical definition of the state ket expansion in quantum mechanics as presented in Sakurai's text. Participants explore the implications of this expansion, particularly focusing on the integral representation of state kets in terms of position eigenkets, and the mathematical frameworks that can be applied to understand this representation.

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  • One participant questions how the integral defining the state ket expansion is mathematically defined, noting that the integrand is not a complex number and suggesting that the Lebesgue integral may not apply directly.
  • Another participant references Dirac's contributions and suggests that the mathematics can be found in Gelfand's volumes, particularly regarding generalized functions and harmonic analysis.
  • A different participant elaborates on the action of the equation on an arbitrary bra, indicating that this transforms the problem into a numerical integration scenario where Lebesgue integration is applicable.
  • One participant proposes using the spectral resolution theorem and Stieltjes integrals as an overarching reason for the validity of the expansion, providing a sketch of how this works in the one-dimensional case.
  • Another participant suggests a simpler formalism that avoids the complexities of bra-ket notation, advocating for a focus on functions and their products instead.

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Participants express differing views on the appropriate mathematical framework for the state ket expansion. While some propose advanced mathematical tools like Stieltjes integrals and spectral resolution, others advocate for simpler approaches. No consensus is reached regarding the best method to define the integral or the necessity of matrix formalism.

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Participants highlight limitations in the discussion, such as the dependence on specific mathematical definitions and the unresolved nature of certain mathematical steps related to the integral's definition.

rachmaninoff
In Sakurai:
The state ket for an arbitrary physical state can be expanded in terms of the |x'>
[tex]|\alpha>=\int dx'^3 |\mathbf{x'}><\mathbf{x'}|\alpha>[/tex]
(where the |x'> are the eigenkets of the position operator, [itex]\hat{x}|x'>=x'|x'>[/itex]).
(Sakurai 1.6.4, p. 42)

My question is about how this integral is mathematically defined - since the integrand is not a complex number, the Lebesgue integral as defined in analysis1 doesn't work directly. I thought about extending the defintion to kets, defining an ordering |a> <= |b> iff every <x'|a> <= <x'|b>, is this how it works? I also noticed the equation looks very much like a Fourier series (except the basis is uncountable) - it's the same idea, an expansion in a basis set... does this work formally?

Since the explanation may be very involved, a reference to a book/section would be more than sufficient. Thanks!

(secondary question - is there a better way to TeX the above equation?)
 
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Well, formally, everything works due to some bright ideas by Dirac. The mathematics behind this is contained (a great part of it) in the 5 volumes by Gelfand and especially in the IV-the (written with Vilenkin) and entitled: "Generalized functions: Applications of Harmonic Analysis".

Daniel.
 
rachmaninoff said:
In Sakurai:
The state ket for an arbitrary physical state can be expanded in terms of the |x'>
[tex]|\alpha>=\int dx'^3 |\mathbf{x'}><\mathbf{x'}|\alpha>[/tex]
(where the |x'> are the eigenkets of the position operator, [itex]\hat{x}|x'>=x'|x'>[/itex]).
(Sakurai 1.6.4, p. 42)

My question is about how this integral is mathematically defined - since the integrand is not a complex number, the Lebesgue integral as defined in analysis1 doesn't work directly.
Consider the action of both sides of the equation on an arbitrary bra <[itex]\beta[/itex]|:

[tex]<\beta|\alpha> = \int {dx'}^3 <\beta|x'><x'|\alpha>[/tex]

Now everything in sight is a number and so Lebesque integration works.
 
If you want a more overarching reason, you can appeal to the spectral resolution theorem, Stiljes integrals and functional calculus. (This approach can even manage to avoid delta "funcions", if you find that appealing)


Here's a quick sketch of how it works in the one-dimensional case.

The position operator X has the spectral resolution:

[tex] X := \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} x |x\rangle\langle x| \, dx[/tex]

which merely means that

[tex] \langle \psi | X | \psi \rangle = \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} x \langle \psi| x\rangle\langle x|\psi\rangle \, dx[/tex]

If you want to avoid the delta functions, the "right" way to describe the spectral resolution is in terms of projection operators: if [itex]\phi[/itex] is a wave function (in the position basis), then we define:

[tex] (E_x \phi)(y) := \left\{<br /> \begin{array}{ll}<br /> \phi(y) \qquad & y < x \\<br /> 0 & y > x[/tex]

I don't want to work out what you're supposed to do when x = y, but I'm pretty sure it's irrelevant to the discussion.

Now, the "right" way to view the spectral resolution is via:

[tex] \langle \psi | X | \psi \rangle = \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} x \, d \langle \psi | E_x | \psi \rangle[/tex]

This is a Stiljes integral, and it's well-defined because the thing after the d is a nondecreasing function. This leads us to say

[tex] X = \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} x \, dE_x[/tex]

The reason we can write [itex]dE_x = |x\rangle\langle x| \, dx[/itex] is because the [itex]E_x[/itex] forms a continuous "distribution function", so it can be differentiated to get a "density function".


Then, if we write f(z) := 1, we can express the identity operator functionally in terms of the position operator: [itex]\hat{1} = f(X)[/itex]. So, the functional calculus tells us:

[tex] \hat{1} = f(X) = \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} f(x) \, dE_x<br /> = \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} dE_x<br /> = \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} |x\rangle\langle x| \, dx[/tex]

which is a "resolution of unity".

Then, you just apply this resolution of unity to [itex]|\alpha\rangle[/itex], and you get
[tex] |\alpha \rangle = \hat{1} |\alpha \rangle<br /> = \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} |x\rangle\langle x|\alpha\rangle \, dx[/tex]


None of this was needed to actually answer your question (since the integral of a linear operator is defined pointwise), but I thought you might find it appealing.


Incidentally, Real Analysis by Royden has a section on the Stiljes integral. The spectral resolution, etc, I took from the Hilbert space section at Modern Physics for Mathematicians.

You can get to that latter link, incidentally, by following the "links" button off of this forum!
 
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In my opinion you can always appeal to the simpler formalism, which resembles the one used in statistical theory. Product of functions, integral of product of functions, no bra and ket, just functions (complex ones) and its conjugates.

Matrix formalism never showed itself as an absolutelly necessary tool.

Best wishes

DaTario
 

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