Understanding the Power Map in Tensor Analysis: Bishop and Goldberg Page 6

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The discussion revolves around the concept of the power map in the context of tensor analysis as defined in the book "Tensor Analysis on Manifolds" by Bishop and Goldberg. Participants are examining the definitions provided in the text, particularly focusing on the role of the set B in the definition of the power map and its implications for mappings between power sets.

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  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the definition of the power map, noting that the set B does not appear in the definition provided in the text.
  • Another participant attempts to clarify that the power map can be understood as mapping subsets of A to subsets of B, even if B is not explicitly mentioned in the definition.
  • It is pointed out that for any subset C of A, the image of C under the mapping f will indeed be a subset of B, suggesting that B is implicitly involved in the power map.

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Participants are engaged in a debate regarding the clarity of the definition of the power map, with some asserting that the role of B is implicit while others question the adequacy of the definition as presented in the text. No consensus is reached on the clarity of the definition.

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There is an ongoing uncertainty about the completeness of the definitions provided in the text, particularly regarding the explicit mention of set B in the context of the power map.

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I'm a bit confused as to how the text Tensor Analysis on Manifolds, by Bishop and Goldberg on page 6.

The authors define the term power set as follows
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If A is a set, we denote by PA the collection of all subsets of A, PA = {C| C is a subset of A}. PA is called the power set of A.
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The authors define the term power map as follows
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If f: A -> B, the we define the power map of f, f: PA -> PB by fC = {fc| fa is an element of C} for every C which is an element of PA}
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What is confusing to me is that nowhere in the definition does the set B occur. What role does B have in the power map?

Thank you

Pete
 
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pmb_phy said:
The authors define the term power map as follows
_________________________________________

If f: A -> B, the we define the power map of f, f: PA -> PB by fC = {fc| fa is an element of C} for every C which is an element of PA}
_________________________________________

What is confusing to me is that nowhere in the definition does the set B occur. What role does B have in the power map?


I think your definition of the power set is a bit off here. Given a mapping f:A->B, where A and B are arbitrary sets, the power map is given by

f(C)={f(c): c is an element of C} for any subset C of A.

The sets A & B are just given sets. The power map is simply the concept that, if you are given a mapping from one set to another, A to B, then this mapping can be used to construct a mapping on the power set of A & B, i.e., one that sends each subset of A to some subset of B.
 
Doodle Bob said:
I think your definition of the power set is a bit off here. Given a mapping f:A->B, where A and B are arbitrary sets, the power map is given by

f(C)={f(c): c is an element of C} for any subset C of A.

The sets A & B are just given sets. The power map is simply the concept that, if you are given a mapping from one set to another, A to B, then this mapping can be used to construct a mapping on the power set of A & B, i.e., one that sends each subset of A to some subset of B.
Thanks. But the set B does not appear in the definition of the power map, hence my question.

Pete
 
pmb_phy said:
Thanks. But the set B does not appear in the definition of the power map, hence my question.

Well, it is there, even if it isn't specifically stated. For any subset C of A and any element c of C, f(c) will be an element of B (since f is a given function from A to B); and hence the image of the subset f(C) will be a subset of B. Hence, the power map is indeed a mapping from the power set of A to the power set of B.
 

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