I Understanding the Raising and Lowering Operator: A Scientific Analysis

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The discussion focuses on the raising and lowering operators in quantum mechanics, specifically the operator relationships and their implications for eigenstates. It establishes that the lowering operator acts on an eigenstate |n⟩ to yield k|n-1⟩, where k is a positive real constant. The normalization condition of the eigenstates leads to the equation k² = n, demonstrating the connection between the operators and the eigenvalues. The importance of the identity relating inner products of operators is also highlighted. Participants are encouraged to explore the proof for the raising operator independently.
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I was reading up on linear harmonic oscillator and here when they define 2 new operators for solving the problem.
I still am finding it difficult how they ended up with the relation mentioned in the grey box, describing how the above mentioned operators act on given eigen state
Thanks in advance
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The proof is not immediately obvious. We start by noting that $$\hat a|n\rangle = k|n-1\rangle$$for some constant ##k##, where we take ##k## to be real and positive by convention. Note that eigenstates are defined only up to a complex phase factor, so we need this convention.

Next, using $$\hat a^{\dagger}\hat a |n\rangle = n|n\rangle$$ and the normalisation of ##|n\rangle## we see that$$\langle n|\hat a^{\dagger}\hat a |n\rangle = \langle n| n|n\rangle = n$$Finally, we evaluate the LHS a different way: $$\langle n|\hat a^{\dagger}\hat a |n\rangle = \langle n|\hat a^{\dagger}k|n-1\rangle = k\langle n-1|\hat a|n\rangle^* = k\langle n-1|k|n-1\rangle^* = k^2$$using the normalisation of ##|n-1\rangle## and the important identity: $$\langle \psi |\hat X |\phi \rangle = \langle \phi |\hat X^{\dagger} |\psi \rangle^*$$which applies for all vectors and operators. That leads to the required equation $$k^2 = n$$
 
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PS it would be a good exercise to do the proof for ##\hat a^{\dagger}## yourself.
 
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PeroK said:
PS it would be a good exercise to do the proof for ##\hat a^{\dagger}## yourself.
Yeah I will try it for sure,
Thanks!
 
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For the quantum state ##|l,m\rangle= |2,0\rangle## the z-component of angular momentum is zero and ##|L^2|=6 \hbar^2##. According to uncertainty it is impossible to determine the values of ##L_x, L_y, L_z## simultaneously. However, we know that ##L_x## and ## L_y##, like ##L_z##, get the values ##(-2,-1,0,1,2) \hbar##. In other words, for the state ##|2,0\rangle## we have ##\vec{L}=(L_x, L_y,0)## with ##L_x## and ## L_y## one of the values ##(-2,-1,0,1,2) \hbar##. But none of these...

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