Understanding the Relationship Between Kronecker Delta and Dirac Delta

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The discussion centers on the relationship between the Kronecker delta and the Dirac delta function, particularly in the context of summations and integrals involving exponential functions. Participants explore the conditions under which these delta functions arise and the implications of different summation limits.

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  • One participant questions the validity of the relation \(\sum_x e^{i(k-k')x} = \delta_{k-k'}\) and expresses confusion about why \(k-k' \neq 0\) implies the sum is zero.
  • Another participant clarifies that the sum should be indexed by integers \(n\) and suggests a specific summation range from \(n=-N\) to \(n=+N\), divided by \(2N+1\), leading to the Kronecker delta in the limit as \(N\) approaches infinity.
  • A third participant distinguishes between two formulas: one for real \(x\) leading to a Dirac delta function and another for integer \(n\) resulting in a Kronecker delta, providing an example to illustrate why the sum is zero when \(n \neq 0\).
  • A later reply corrects a notation regarding the Kronecker delta, suggesting it should account for modular conditions.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between the two types of delta functions and the conditions under which they apply. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of the summation limits and the interpretation of the delta functions.

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There are limitations regarding the assumptions about the summation indices and the definitions of the delta functions, as well as the conditions under which the sums converge or diverge.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying mathematical physics, particularly in areas involving Fourier analysis, signal processing, or theoretical physics where delta functions are commonly applied.

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Is it true that [tex]\sum_x e^{i(k-k')x} = \delta_{k-k'}[/tex], where [tex]\delta[/tex] is the Kronecker delta? I've come across a similar relation for the Dirac Delta (when the sum is an integral). I do not understand why [tex]k-k' \neq 0[/tex] implies the sum is zero.

Edit: In fact, I'm really confused, since it seems that when the [tex]x=0...\inf[/tex] and k=k' the sum is infinite. So is it a Dirac delta?
 
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In that sum, x should be an integer, so it is usually written as n.
The sum should be from n=-N to n=+N, and divided by 2N+1.
Then in the limit N-->infinity, it is the Kronecker delta.
 
There are really two different formulas here. For [itex]x[/itex] real (not necessarily an integer), we have

[tex] \sum_{k=-\infty}^{+\infty}e^{ikx}=2\pi\sum_{n=-\infty}^{+\infty}\delta(x-2\pi n)[/tex]

where [itex]\delta(x)[/itex] is the Dirac delta function.

For [itex]n[/itex] an integer,

[tex] \sum_{k=1}^{N}e^{2\pi ikn/N}=N\delta_{n0}[/tex]

where [itex]\delta_{nm}[/itex] is the Kronecker delta. To get an idea of why this sums to zero when [itex]n\ne 0[/itex], consider the case [itex]N=4[/itex]; then the four numbers being summed are [itex]i^n, (-1)^n, (-i)^n, 1^n[/itex].
 
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Thank you both, I've written these handy formulas for my future reference.
 
[tex]N\delta_{n0}[/tex] should have been [tex]N\delta_{n\mathop{\rm mod}N,0}[/tex]
That is, [itex]N[/itex] if [itex]n=0,\pm N,\pm 2N, \ldots,[/itex] and zero otherwise.
 

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