Is the delta in the commutation relations of QFT a dirac delta or a kronecker?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of the delta function in the context of commutation relations (CR) in quantum field theory (QFT) and whether it should be interpreted as a Dirac delta function or a Kronecker delta. Participants explore the implications of these interpretations for the behavior of fields and operators in QFT and quantum mechanics (QM).

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about whether the delta in the commutation relations is a Dirac delta, which implies infinite values when the arguments are equal, or a Kronecker delta, which equals one for discrete indices.
  • It is noted that both Dirac and Kronecker deltas can occur in QFT, depending on the context.
  • One participant provides an example of a commutation relation involving fields, suggesting that the first delta represents a Kronecker delta for different components, while the second is a Dirac delta distribution due to the nature of fields as distributions.
  • Concerns are raised about the interpretation of commutation relations, emphasizing that they only make sense when integrated with a test function, otherwise leading to undefined behavior at coinciding points.
  • Questions are posed regarding whether all operators in QM are distributions, with references to position and momentum operators as examples.
  • Another participant clarifies that in QFT, fields are operator-valued distributions with continuous indices, while in QM, operators have discrete indices leading to Kronecker deltas.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of the delta function in commutation relations, with multiple competing views and ongoing questions about the nature of distributions in both QFT and QM.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of interpreting delta functions in the context of quantum fields and operators, with references to the necessity of integrating with test functions and the distinction between continuous and discrete indices.

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If it's a dirac delta doesn't it mean it's infinite when x=y? Or is it a sort of kronecker where it's equal to one but the indices x and y are continuous? I'm confused.
 
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Both the Dirac and Kronecker deltas can occur in QFT.

Post a specific example of a CR you don't understand...
 
silence11 said:
If it's a dirac delta doesn't it mean it's infinite when x=y? Or is it a sort of kronecker where it's equal to one but the indices x and y are continuous? I'm confused.

In QFT you can have commutation relations like

<br /> [\phi^i (x), \pi_j (y)] = \delta^_i \delta^{(D)}(x-y)<br />

where phi and pi are conjugate fields, of which you can have, say, N, and D is the dimension of spacetime.

The first delta states that these fields don't commutate if they are different components. That's a Kronecker delta. The second is a distribution, and is there because the fields are really distributions. These kind of relations only make sense if you integrate them with a test function. Otherwise you would naively say that the commutator blows up if x=y.

You can compare it with the commutators in QM; those only make sense if you apply them to a wave function.
 
haushofer said:
The second is a distribution, and is there because the fields are really distributions. These kind of relations only make sense if you integrate them with a test function. Otherwise you would naively say that the commutator blows up if x=y.

You can compare it with the commutators in QM; those only make sense if you apply them to a wave function.

Are all operators distributions then, and not just commutators? In QM, X and P are distributions. In QFT, creation/annihilation operators and fields are distributions?
 
geoduck said:
In QM, X and P are distributions.
Could you elaborate on this?
 
lugita15 said:
Could you elaborate on this?

I was just asking haushofer a question. He said fields in QFT are distributions, and I was wondering why. He said you integrate them over test functions, so I was wondering if he meant that any linear operator is a distribution in QM, e.g.,

<x|P|x'> takes ψ(x') and maps it to:

<x|P|ψ>=-i d/dx[ψ(x)]

I have no idea what he meant, so I just wanted to learn :)
 
In QFT fields are operator-valued distributions where (in position space) x is a "continuous index". The delta-distribution is the identity-operator.

In QM the operators are X (and P, ...) - no fields - and there is only a discrete index (i=1,2,3, ... for dimensions etc.) and therefore you get a Kronecker delta as identity-operator. The delta-function in QM is not an operator but a matrix element.
 

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