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Can anybody give me a simple example of uncertainty principle in both microscopic and microscopic level so that I can recall it every time I read about this topic ?
The discussion revolves around the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, exploring its implications at both microscopic (quantum) and macroscopic (classical) levels. Participants seek examples that illustrate the principle's effects in different contexts, comparing classical mechanics with quantum mechanics.
Participants express varying degrees of agreement on the implications of the uncertainty principle at different scales, with some suggesting it applies at the macroscopic level under certain conditions, while others emphasize its primary relevance at the microscopic level. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent of the principle's applicability in classical contexts.
Limitations include the potential oversimplification of examples and the dependence on specific definitions of classical and quantum systems. The discussion does not resolve the nuances of how the uncertainty principle manifests in practical scenarios.
Anithadhruvbud said:simple example of uncertainty principle in both microscopic and microscopic level
phinds said:In classical mechanics, if you lay out a billiard table with microscopic precision and make it exactly identical twice in a row and hit one ball with the cue in exactly the same way, then in both cases, the hit ball will go to exactly the same place.
Yes, I think that's probably right since the HUP does apply at the macro level if you measure close enough, but I was trying for simplicity and to give a direct comparison of classical mechanics WITHOUT the HUP to QM with the HUP.Borek said:Actually I remember being told that in a well designed experiment - billiard balls hitting each other in such a way that the initial error gets multiplied in each collision - Heisenberg principle may prevent the 8th ball from hitting the 9th one. Sorry, no reference for that, it was just mentioned by one of TAs in a quantum chemistry course I took back in eighties.