Understanding Wave Function and Schrodinger Wave Equation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the concept of wave functions in quantum mechanics and the applicability of the Schrödinger wave equation to a simple pendulum. Participants explore the nature of wave functions, their interpretation, and their mathematical representation, as well as the relationship between classical and quantum systems.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe the wave function as a representation of varying possibilities that collapse upon observation, linking it to the duality phenomena of light.
  • Others define the wave function as a probability amplitude that helps determine the likelihood of finding a system in a specific state at a given time.
  • One participant asserts that the Schrödinger equation can be applied to a classical simple pendulum, while another emphasizes that it is primarily used to determine energy levels through the time-independent Schrödinger equation.
  • There is a discussion about the mathematical nature of the wave function, with some noting it as a construct that does not represent a physical entity and is defined within a Hilbert space.
  • Participants express uncertainty regarding the conversion from partial differential equations to ordinary differential equations in the context of the Schrödinger equation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying interpretations of the wave function and its implications, with no consensus reached on its physical reality or the extent of its applicability to classical systems like the simple pendulum.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on definitions of wave functions and the unresolved nature of the relationship between classical mechanics and quantum mechanics in this context.

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hi ,
can anyone please explain to me what is wavefunction - and can we apply schordinger wsve equation to simple pendulum.
thanks
 
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From my limited knowledge as of this moment, the way I think of wavefunction is basically a varying wave of numerous possibilities, it's upon observation which's when we break /collapse the wavefunction and make it definite.This is what happens in nature and how duality phenomena of light was discovered.

Schrödinger equation is a partial differential equation I am not sure whether there's a possibility of conversion from PDE to ODE. I will let other users give you a detailed explanation who are much knowledgeable on this.
 
wasi-uz-zaman said:
hi ,
can anyone please explain to me what is wavefunction - and can we apply schordinger wsve equation to simple pendulum.
thanks

A wave function is a function that describes the probability amplitude of a system. In simple terms, it can be used to determine the probability of finding a system in a certain state at a certain time :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_function

Yes, you can use it to describe a classic pendulum.
 
wasi-uz-zaman said:
hi ,
can anyone please explain to me what is wavefunction - and can we apply schordinger wsve equation to simple pendulum.
thanks


Quantum mechanics only predicts the possible results of a measurement and the probability distribution of those results. We use the wavefunction[tex]\psi (x)[/tex]
to calculate the probability distribution[tex]\left| {\psi (x)} \right|^2[/tex]of the measurement results.[tex]\left| {\psi (x)} \right|^2[/tex]gives us the probability of finding the particle at position[tex]x[/tex]when we measure the position. It is a mathematical construct that is not an observable, i.e. we do not measure any of its attributes. Most believe that it is not a real physical entity; it does not propagate in space-time like real classical waves do. Mathematically it is defined as a vector in a Hilbert space, which is a complex linear vector space.

Schrödinger's time dependent equation [tex]i\hbar \partial \psi (x,t)/\partial t = \hat H\psi (x,t)[/tex]can be applied to any quantum system, including the quantum simple pendulum. Usually, however, we only want to determine the energy levels and we solve instead the time independent Schrödinger equation[tex]\hat H\psi _k = E_k \psi _k[/tex], which is the energy eigenvalue equation.

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