Uniform circular motion on a banked curve

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The discussion focuses on calculating the speed of a car with a mass of 1200 kg rounding a banked curve at an angle of 18 degrees and a radius of 130 m. The frictional force acting down the banked curve is 3.5 x 10^3 N. The correct formula for speed is derived as v = sqrt((rFgtanθ + Fktanθsinθ + Fkcosθ)/m), leading to a final speed of approximately 29 m/s after correcting calculation errors. Participants clarified the use of trigonometric functions and the distribution of terms in the equation.

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Homework Statement



A car with mass 1200kg rounds a curve banked at 18 degrees. The radius of the curve is 130 m.

Find the speed of the car if the frictional force between the tires and the road is 3.5 x 10^3 down the banked curve.

Homework Equations



ac = v2/r

The Attempt at a Solution



After breaking it up into x and y components, I came up with the following:

v = sqrt((rFgtanx + Fktanxsinx + Fkcosx)/m)

Solving for it, I got about 20 m/s. The answer is 29 m/s. I think I just made some sort of calculating error or missed a negative, but I haven't been able to find it. Any help?
 
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That v expression can't be right - the units vary from term to term.
Perhaps all the terms should have an r in them.
I don't see how you get the tans. What is Fk?

I have a diagram with Ff along the ramp, mg down and Fn (road pushing on the car) perpendicular to the ramp. I believe the sum of the horizontal components of these 3 forces is the centripetal force. I get an answer larger than 29 for v.
 
im sorry this is irrelevant to the question but I am new and i need to post a question; how do i do that? help I am lost lol
 
awertag said:
im sorry this is irrelevant to the question but I am new and i need to post a question; how do i do that? help I am lost lol

New topic button at top of thread listing, left-hand side.
 
Ohh, just forgot to distribute r I think, I get approx 29 m/s now, thanks! The tans are from multiplying out terms with sin and cos in them, I was just simplifying.
 
thanks very much!
 
sorry again but i don't see that "new topic" option
 
Click https://www.physicsforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=153
to go to the introductory physics thread list. On that page, near the top, but below the advertisement and just above the "threads in forum introductory physics" you should see a "NEW TOPIC" button.
 

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