Uniqueness Theorem: Finding region

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The discussion revolves around understanding the uniqueness theorem in the context of differential equations, specifically focusing on determining a region in the xy-plane where a given differential equation has a unique solution that passes through a specified point. The scope includes theoretical aspects of differential equations and their applications in homework problems.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the uniqueness theorem and its application to a specific differential equation, questioning whether a region or an interval is required for the solution.
  • Another participant suggests rewriting the differential equation in the form y' = f(x,y) to identify the function f(x,y) and the conditions required for uniqueness.
  • A further clarification is provided that the theorem generally states that through each point, there should be one solution, and the conditions under which this holds are crucial to determining the uniqueness of solutions.
  • Participants discuss the relevance of an example provided in the attachment, which illustrates a case where the conditions for uniqueness are not met, leading to multiple solutions through a point.
  • One participant reassures another that the calculation of partial derivatives, which is relevant for understanding the theorem, is manageable and not as difficult as initially assumed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of the uniqueness theorem and its conditions for determining the existence of unique solutions. However, there is some uncertainty regarding the specific requirements for defining the region in the xy-plane and the implications of the theorem in the context of the given differential equation.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of clarity on the specific conditions required for the function f(x,y) to guarantee a unique solution, as well as the exact nature of the region or interval needed for the solution to exist.

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Hello everyone!

So today is was my first day of differential equations and I understood most of it until the very end. My professor started talking about partial derivatives which is Calc 3 at my university. He said Calc 3 wasn't required but was recommend for differential equations. He then went on to act like we all knew Calc 3.

So he gave us this homework question:

Determine a region of the xy-plane for which the given differential equation would have a unique solution whose graph passes through point (x_0, y_0) in the region(x_0 is x sub 0):

x(dy/dx) = y

I pretty much have no idea how to solve this or really what it's asking. The rest of the homework was really easy so this caught me off guard.

The only information we learned about it is the attachment I uploaded.


Do I need to define a region(IE a box) or is it just an interval. If it's an interval, I think I can answer it. But I seriously don't even understand what the theorem is saying. Is it saying that given a family of differential equations (for example x + C ) and given a point, there is only one C that will cause the function to intersect that point? I don't think that's it because it doesn't involve a region. I think I don't understand it because I have no idea what a partial derivative is.

Any help would be appreciated.
 

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You need to use the theorem in that attachment. In the theorem, the differential equation looks like y' = f(x,y).

Can you write your differential equation (xy'=y) so that it fits that form? If so, then what is f(x,y)? What conditions on f(x,y) does the theorem require to guarantee a unique solution in some interval? Where are those conditions true for your particular function f(x,y)?

Notice the example that is after the theorem. In that example, f(x,y) = x\sqrt{y}. At the point (0,0), there are two solutions. So apparently the function x\sqrt{y} does not meet all the criteria given in the theorem.

I hope that helps.
 
Let me clarify a bit. It is more or less "generic" that if you have a first order differential equation, then through each point, there will be just one solution. That is what the theorem is about in your attachment--conditions on the equation to guarantee that you will not get more than one solution through a point. That is also the relevance of the example after the theorem. It shows that when the conditions on f(x,y) are not met, you can get more than one solution through a point. So for your problem, the question is asking which points can have more than one solution through them and which points can only have one solution through them.

Also, you don't have to worry about the exact box or interval on which the solution exists for this problem.

Oh, and regarding Calc III, all you have to know is how to calculate a partial derivative. Google that because it is really easy. If you can calculate Calc I derivatives, then you can learn to calculate partials after doing a couple examples.
 
Ah, thank you. That makes much more sense. I forgot to mention that I'm taking Calc 3 next semester so I didn't know how to take partial derivatives. I assumed they were really difficult to take but they're really easy and that makes this make much more sense.

Thank you again.
 

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