Unit sum composed of unit fractions

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The discussion revolves around the necessity of including the fraction 1/2 in a unit sum composed of unit fractions. Participants explore whether it is possible to represent the number one as a sum of distinct unit fractions without including 1/2, examining both trivial and non-trivial examples.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if a unit sum must include 1/2, suggesting that their findings in Maple indicate it might be necessary.
  • Another participant asserts that it is not necessary, providing the example 1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 1 as a counterexample.
  • A later reply reiterates the assertion that 1/2 is not required, referencing a non-trivial example of 1/3 + 1/4 + 1/5 + 1/6 + 1/20 = 1.
  • Some participants express confusion about the uniqueness of representations of non-unit fractions as sums of distinct unit fractions, indicating a belief that there might be only one valid representation.
  • Another participant presents a complex example involving multiple unit fractions with odd denominators that sum to one, suggesting the existence of infinitely many representations without 1/2.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the necessity of including 1/2 in unit sums. Multiple competing views remain regarding the uniqueness of representations and the inclusion of specific fractions.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the uniqueness of unit fraction representations and the implications of the Erdős–Graham problem, indicating that assumptions about distinct representations may not hold universally.

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Is it necessary for a unit sum composed of unit fractions to include 1/2? Doing maple runs this seems to be the case, but it is not evident to me how this could be

Edit: In fact it seems it could not be, given the Erdos Graham problem Erd?s?Graham problem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But considering an arbitrary fraction and one minus it, it seems the unit fraction representation of one of these two's parts is bound to include 1/2.

I feel a bit mixed up here.

EditEdit:1/3+1/4+1/5+1/6+1/20 does it. I think I thought that distinct unit fraction representations were unique. But this is not the case clearly.
 
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Is it necessary for a unit sum composed of unit fractions to include 1/2?

No. 1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 1.

EDIT : Nontrivial 1/3 + 1/4 + 1/5 + 1/6 + 1/20 = 1.
 
mathbalarka said:
No. 1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 1.

I'm afraid I'm being awfully careless in the statement. thank you,
 
I also gave a non-trivial example there, you might want to look at that.
 
mathbalarka said:
I also gave a non-trivial example there, you might want to look at that.

Thanks. I figured that out and edited the first post just before you posted.

I did not think that there are infinitely many representations of a non unit fraction in terms of distinct unit fractions and so thought that given one I had the only one that would do so.
 
conscipost said:
Given one I had the only one that would do so.

$$\frac{1}{3} + \frac{1}{5} + \frac{1}{7} + \frac{1}{9} + \frac{1}{11} + \frac{1}{15} + \frac{1}{33} + \frac{1}{45} + \frac{1}{385} = 1$$

There exists trivially infinitely many unit fractions with not just without 2 but with odd denominator which sum up to unity.
 

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