Unlimited Possibilities: Theory Permutations

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The discussion revolves around the concept of theory permutations in scientific theories, particularly focusing on how subsets of a theory can influence its validity and evolution. Participants explore the implications of verifying or disproving certain postulates within a theory and how this affects the overall framework.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that theories can be viewed as sets with various subsets, and questions how many permutations can keep a theory viable.
  • Another participant interprets this as a method to evaluate a theory's robustness by examining its verified postulates and discarding disproven ones, proposing that this could facilitate the theory's evolution.
  • A further contribution highlights the ambiguity of certain elements within theories, using dark matter candidates as an example, questioning how many alternatives exist if a primary candidate is disproven.
  • One participant expresses a lack of expertise in the area, indicating a need for input from more knowledgeable members.
  • A participant questions the relevance of moving the discussion to a different forum category.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the implications of theory subsets or the number of candidates for dark matter, indicating that multiple competing views remain and the discussion is unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made about the nature of theories and their subsets, as well as the definitions of terms like "dark matter" and "candidates," which may vary among participants.

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If one takes a theory as a set ,there seems to be many sub sets that make that theory, and even sub set of sub sets, has anyone ever worked out the possible permutations that will keep a theory alive?
 
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I'm not sure what you're proposing here Wolram. Are you saying that if we take the principles and postulates of a theory as a set, then the subsets would be useful in determining how good that theory was. For example if we have whatever theory as [itex]A = \{x,y,z\}[/itex] for postulates x, y and z and x & y were verified experimentally but z was disproved then we could examine the parts of that theory which contained as x and y as elements and throw away the bits with z in. This would then help the theory evolve rather than throwing the whole lot out?

Or am I off.
 
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Kurdt said:
I'm not sure what you're proposing here Wolram. Are you saying that if we take the principles and postulates of a theory as a set, then the subsets would be useful in determining how good that theory was. For example if we have whatever theory as [itex]A = \{x,y,z\}[/itex] for postulates x, y and z and x & y were verified experimentally but z was disproved then we could examine the parts of that theory which contained as x and y as elements and throw away the bits with z in. This would then help the theory evolve rather than throwing the whole lot out?

Or am I off.

Rather part z can be ambiguous, if for instance the WIMP is not found there are many candidates to take its place, so one goes to the next best candidate and if that one can not be found the next etc, etc, so my question is how many candidates are there for dark matter, which is just a sub set of the set, and how many candidates are there for the other sub sets of the set.
 
In that case I think this is where marcus or somebody else will have to come in since I have little knowledge in that area rather embarrassingly.
 
Why move this to GD?
 

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