Unraveling the Mysteries of Pion Decays

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The discussion centers on the decay processes of neutral and charged pions, specifically addressing the decay mechanisms and conservation laws involved. The neutral pion (π0) decay to e+e- is noted to have a non-zero branching fraction (~10-8) and is suppressed due to higher-order diagrams. The charged pion (π+) decays to a muon and neutrino via the W boson, raising questions about the allowed interactions given the spin conservation laws. The conversation highlights the importance of charge conjugation (C) conservation in electromagnetic interactions, particularly in the context of pion decays.

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hi,

yesterday i had a discussion with some friends about the decays of pions which produced a few questions that we couldn't resolve properly.

if anyone can shed some light on this matter, or point out flaws in the reasoning below, that would be great.

so starting with the decay of a neutral pion, and the question of why it is not simply an annihilation qqbar -> gamma -> e+e-; my understanding is that this diagram would not be allowed since the pion is spin 0 and the photon is spin 1. is this correct?

there is a non-zero (~10^-8) branching fraction for pi0 -> e+e- (with no final state photons); I'm assuming this proceeds by some higher order diagram and is hence supressed.

so anyway, if the tree diagram qqbar(pion) -> gamma -> e+e- is not allowed because of spin, how is it that the charged pion decays to muon+neutrino with very high branching fraction? i have seen in textbooks and on wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pion ) this decay being drawn as ud -> W -> mu nu, but as in the case for the neutral pion, the pion is spin zero and the W is spin 1, so how can this happen?

or is it that the vertex pion -> vector boson is allowed, but just supressed in some way? if so what is the nature of that supression?

i have looked at the matrix element calculation for pi+ -> mu+ nu and it seems that the current on the quark side of the diagram cannot be written with gamma^mu(1 - gamma^5) ; does this mean that the propagator is not a W? if so then what is it?

so, if anyone has any thoughts on this, or you think I'm just being retarded, please let me know.

thanks :)
 
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ok, i was being retarded, as i expected. the pi0 is C = +1 and the photon is C = -1, and C must be conserved in EM interactions. I'm fairly sure someone taught me that at some point but i'd completely forgotten.
 
well, i am still confused. looking at some textbooks, they all state that C(gamma) = -1 since the EM field is produced by charges that change sign under C transformation. fine.

they then say that because the neutral pion decays to two photons, it has C = +1. if the C number of the neutral pion is defined by its decay, then to use this number to explain how it decays would be circular. without already knowing how it decays, i can only say that it has C = +/- 1.

:confused: :confused: :confused:

i would really appreciate some thoughts on this...
 

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