Unveiling the Universe: Understanding the Composition of Our Cosmos

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The discussion revolves around the composition of the universe, specifically focusing on the proportions of dark matter, dark energy, normal matter, and luminous matter. Participants explore definitions and clarify the distinctions between different types of matter, including baryonic and non-baryonic components.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the universe is composed of 26.8% dark matter, 68.3% dark energy, and 4.9% normal matter, questioning the meaning of "normal matter" and the proportion of luminous matter.
  • Another participant references a cosmic energy inventory that may have slight adjustments due to new results from the Planck collaboration.
  • A third participant cites Wikipedia, explaining that ordinary matter consists of luminous matter (stars and luminous gases) and nonluminous matter (intergalactic gas, neutrinos, and supermassive black holes), suggesting that luminous matter constitutes about 10% of ordinary matter.
  • Several participants question the accuracy of the claim that only 0.045% of the universe is baryons, with one asserting that about 4.5% is attributed to atoms (baryons) and suggesting a possible misunderstanding in the percentage stated.
  • One participant acknowledges a mistake in their earlier claim about the baryonic content after reviewing the information again.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the exact proportions of baryonic matter and luminous matter, with some agreeing on the 4.5% figure for baryons while others question the initial claim of 0.045%. The discussion remains unresolved on certain details.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of normal matter and luminous matter, as well as the dependence on the latest data from the Planck collaboration, which may not be fully accounted for in all contributions.

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So far i know that------26.8% is dark mater, 68.3% is dark energy and 4.9% is normal matter.

what is meant by [normal matter] and what is the proportion of luminous matter.
 
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The cosmic energy inventory has a detailed list of those contributions. It was written before the Planck collaboration published results, but that should just give small changes.
 
From wikipedia: "Ordinary matter is divided into luminous matter (the stars and luminous gases and 0.005% radiation) and nonluminous matter (intergalactic gas and about 0.1% neutrinos and 0.04% supermassive black holes)." Luminous matter makes up about 10% of ordinary matter. Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter
 
Is this correct, only 0.045% of the universe is baryons?
 
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wolram said:
Is this correct, only 0.045% of the universe is baryons?

Yes, I believe that's correct. I think Planck gives 4.9%, but that's just a quibble.
 
wolram said:
Is this correct, only 0.045% of the universe is baryons?
About 4.5% is atoms (baryons)...are you off by a factor of 100 accidentally?
 
My mistake, i have looked again and it is in deed 4.5%.

Thanks.
 

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