US spy operation that manipulates social media

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But seriously, what is surprising about this?
Nothing, and that's why I thougt people will rush in en masse with their wild ideas.

I've also tried to find good example links but I just don't speak google that well.
 
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Impersonating existing users via bugs in forum software (vBulletin bug for example) would be more effective - especially if a popular user receives private messages. The impersonator could have the option of discrediting a forum 'leader' via bogus posts or of gaining access to the user's closest associates via PMs.

This would be more consistent with articles saying the military would only do this on foreign language websites, since impersonating a person, whether in real life or on the internet, is illegal in the US.
 
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Impersonating existing users via bugs in forum software (vBulletin bug for example) would be more effective - especially if a popular user receives private messages. The impersonator could have the option of discrediting a forum 'leader' via bogus posts or of gaining access to the user's closest associates via PMs.

This would be more consistent with articles saying the military would only do this on foreign language websites, since impersonating a person, whether in real life or on the internet, is illegal in the US.
yeah, i can already see your friends list, so i know who you choose to openly associate with, even if i can't read private messages.

funny thing about PMs, i tend to avoid them like the plague. i prefer to keep dialog in the open whenever possible. also, communicating in the open forum feels less "compelled" to me than PMs.
 
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yeah, i can already see your friends list, so i know who you choose to openly associate with, even if i can't read private messages.
The countermeasure to having people see your friends list is friend farming - bulking up your friends list to incredibly high levels by not only friending everyone you know, but friending everyone your friends know. Plus, it makes you look incredibly popular to have so many friends on Facebook.
 
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The countermeasure to having people see your friends list is friend farming - bulking up your friends list to incredibly high levels by not only friending everyone you know, but friending everyone your friends know. Plus, it makes you look incredibly popular to have so many friends on Facebook.
A quick check on activity between such friends is telling however, and absurdly easy to track in a forum or other online venue.
 
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so apparently, there is this guy named http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cass_Sunstein" [Broken] who works for Obama.

sock puppets as a way to mold public opinion just may be his baby, as he's proposed it before:
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/01/15/sunstein
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1084585

his homepage is currently 404'd: http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/regulatory_affairs/default/ [Broken]

from wiki, he has some particularly disturbing views on free speech. apparently, he's a little put out that his views aren't getting the attention they deserve. maybe more attention is exactly what Sunstein needs. they say sunlight is the best disinfectant, so i will do my wee part here to put him under the magnifying glass.
First Amendment

In his book Democracy and the Problem of Free Speech Sunstein says there is a need to reformulate First Amendment law. He thinks that the current formulation, based on Justice Holmes' conception of free speech as a marketplace “disserves the aspirations of those who wrote America’s founding document.”[14] The purpose of this reformulation would be to “reinvigorate processes of democratic deliberation, by ensuring greater attention to public issues and greater diversity of views.”[15] He is concerned by the present “situation in which like-minded people speak or listen mostly to one another,”[16] and thinks that in “light of astonishing economic and technological changes, we must doubt whether, as interpreted, the constitutional guarantee of free speech is adequately serving democratic goals.”[17] He proposes a “New Deal for speech [that] would draw on Justice Brandeis' insistence on the role of free speech in promoting political deliberation and citizenship.”[15]
and apparently, covert propaganda isn't even legal in the US.
http://www.prwatch.org/node/7261
 
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Don't forget the Mrs. (Cass Sunstein) ->>> Samantha Power.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/16/magazine/16Sunstein-t.html
yeah, i have her http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Problem_from_Hell" [Broken]. still waiting to see how she turns out. whether marginally better than the old school, or just more of the same. so far tho, our intervention policy does not seem to deviate from the american interests only routine.
 
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