News USAs involvement in the Middle East

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The discussion centers on the United States' involvement in the Middle East, primarily driven by the need to secure oil resources. Critics argue that the wars have been costly for American taxpayers, but proponents counter that the financial burden would be greater without access to oil. The Gulf War is cited as a relatively low-cost operation due to financial support from Gulf states. The conversation also touches on the complexities of regional politics, including the Israel issue, and the long-term consequences of U.S. military actions, which some believe have empowered extremist groups. Ultimately, the motivations behind U.S. actions are debated, with oil interests being a significant but not exclusive factor.
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kasse said:
We know it wasn't true, but we cannot know it was a LIE! That's two different things. I doubt the leaders would lie to the American people.
Ah, Leaders don't lie? How charming and trusting. Bush and Cheney were never photographed with fewer than a gazillion flags backing them, so they always told the truth? Let's come back to reality. The aluminum-tube story was debunked readily, and the Niger yellow-cake story, too. Bush and Cheney both knew that those stories were lies, and when Joe Wilson debunked the yellow-cake story, they outed his wife. I don't know how many in-country assets were killed when Plame's cover was blown or how many years it might take to replace those capabilities - that will forever remain classified, but you should know that Bush-Cheney did untold damage to our intelligence communities with their petty retribution. In case you don't know, a NOC (like Plame) can be captured, tortured, put to death, etc by any foreign government with NO diplomatic immunity, no official cover, nothing. Our government will not even acknowledge their existence in the intelligence community. She held one of the most dangerous and most highly-regarded positions in the CIA and Bush and Cheney outed her for spite after Joe Wilson proved that their claims of Irag purchases of yellow-cake were entirely fabricated. Do you get your "facts" from Rush Limbaugh? Please get your facts straight.
 
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kasse said:
We know it wasn't true, but we cannot know it was a LIE! That's two different things. I doubt the leaders would lie to the American people.

I try very hard to stay out of this Politics morass, but this was linked from GD, and I got this far... sigh...


Ask Dick Army if Dick Cheney lied.

http://newsbusters.org/forums/internal-affairs/question-about-cheney-armey-newsbusters-24520
 
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Are Bilderberg involved in this scam?
 
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kasse said:
Are Bilderberg involved in this scam?
You are flailing at this point and your credibility is zero. Want to shoot for less than zero? If you have any evidence that Bush's "War on Terror" was actually directed at terrorists, trot it out now because nobody apart from birthers and hard-core WMD conspiracists will give you any support.
 
  • #35
Has the USA as a nation made money asa a result of the Gulf war and the Iraq war?
 
  • #36
I don't get where this is going. Locked.
 
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