USAs involvement in the Middle East

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Less than 60% are satisfied with Obama. What's wrong with the 40%? Look at all that he has done! Do people think Obama is God?
 
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Less than 60% are satisfied with Obama. What's wrong with the 40%? Look at all that he has done! Do people think Obama is God?
Most Republicans and every single racist are dissatisfied with Obama. Under such circumstances his approval numbers are wonderful. But what does this have to do with US involvement in the Middle East apart from trying to change the subject?
 
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The "official" version was a lie and we all know it.
We know it wasn't true, but we cannot know it was a LIE! That's two different things. I doubt the leaders would lie to the American people.
 
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Critics often claim that we're there only for the oil. That might be the main reason, but what's wrong with being interested in oil? Imagine all oil in the world magically disappearing tomorrow. Imagine the terrible consequences! We must of course secure it. Imagine the consequences if Saddam Hussein got to control Kuwait's and Saudi Arabia's oil. He would pose a major threat!

Also the critics clai that the wars have been expensice for the American tax payers. Imagine how expensive it would have been if we were suddenly out of oil! The gulf war, for instance, costed us only 9 billion dollars, because we received 36 billion dollars from Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and other gulf states to pay for the war.

Let's consider Saddam's invasion of Kuwayt in a realistic way then. Saddam invaded Kuwayt for economic reasons, Iraq had paid a heavy price for the war with Iran. The US was very pleased with Iraq's decision to attack Iran. Relations between Iraq and the US were pretty good, the US had even held joint naval exercises with Iraq. The US was willing to look the other way when Saddam found it necessary to attack Halabja (because that incident had been provoked by Iran counteratacking in the north with the help of Iraqi Kurds).

So, if the US had simply appeased Iraq when it attacked Kuwayt and let Saddam attack Saudi Arabia too, nothing bad would have happened. Saddam would not have tolerated Islamic fundamentalism. Under Saddam's rule, women would have equal rights in the whole Arab peninsula.
 
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Less than 60% are satisfied with Obama. What's wrong with the 40%? Look at all that he has done! Do people think Obama is God?
Go to Russia and ask if people think that Stalin was a good leader. You'll be surprised by how many say: "yes". The same is true if you go to Spain and ask the same about Franco.
 
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We know it wasn't true, but we cannot know it was a LIE! That's two different things. I doubt the leaders would lie to the American people.
Ah, Leaders don't lie? How charming and trusting. Bush and Cheney were never photographed with fewer than a gazillion flags backing them, so they always told the truth? Let's come back to reality. The aluminum-tube story was debunked readily, and the Niger yellow-cake story, too. Bush and Cheney both knew that those stories were lies, and when Joe Wilson debunked the yellow-cake story, they outed his wife. I don't know how many in-country assets were killed when Plame's cover was blown or how many years it might take to replace those capabilities - that will forever remain classified, but you should know that Bush-Cheney did untold damage to our intelligence communities with their petty retribution. In case you don't know, a NOC (like Plame) can be captured, tortured, put to death, etc by any foreign government with NO diplomatic immunity, no official cover, nothing. Our government will not even acknowledge their existence in the intelligence community. She held one of the most dangerous and most highly-regarded positions in the CIA and Bush and Cheney outed her for spite after Joe Wilson proved that their claims of Irag purchases of yellow-cake were entirely fabricated. Do you get your "facts" from Rush Limbaugh? Please get your facts straight.
 
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We know it wasn't true, but we cannot know it was a LIE! That's two different things. I doubt the leaders would lie to the American people.
I try very hard to stay out of this Politics morass, but this was linked from GD, and I got this far... sigh...


Ask Dick Army if Dick Cheney lied.

http://newsbusters.org/forums/internal-affairs/question-about-cheney-armey-newsbusters-24520 [Broken]
 
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Are Bilderberg involved in this scam?
 
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Are Bilderberg involved in this scam?
You are flailing at this point and your credibility is zero. Want to shoot for less than zero? If you have any evidence that Bush's "War on Terror" was actually directed at terrorists, trot it out now because nobody apart from birthers and hard-core WMD conspiracists will give you any support.
 
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Has the USA as a nation made money asa a result of the Gulf war and the Iraq war?
 
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I don't get where this is going. Locked.
 
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