Use the equation of the straight line to predict future deaths.

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of a graph representing the number of deaths due to cancer over time, specifically focusing on the use of a linear equation to predict future outcomes based on limited data points. Participants are exploring the nature of functions in relation to this graph.

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  • Participants discuss whether the graph can be considered a function, with differing views on the implications of using only two points for prediction. Some question the validity of linear extrapolation from a parabolic dataset.

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The conversation is ongoing, with various perspectives on the definition of a function and the appropriateness of linear models for prediction. Some participants provide insights into the nature of functions and modeling, while others express skepticism about the predictive power of the proposed method.

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There is a focus on the limitations of using a linear function to model a parabolic dataset, as well as the implications of defining functions in terms of their predictive accuracy. The discussion includes references to geometric interpretations of functions and the need for careful consideration of data representation.

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Hello,

I have a set of data points to plot as graph.

X axis: Year
Y axis: Number of deaths due to cancer.

The graph is of parabolic shape opening to the right.


Following is my question:

I have been asked to plot only the first and last points and connect those points with a straight line. Use the equation of the straight line to predict future deaths.


Can this graph be considered as a function? I am not sure how to answer this. My answer is yes and No.

Yes because, by the definition of a function, you have a certain output for a certain in put. The definition does not worry about the accuracy of the output.

No because, two points in a set of data can not accurately predict the future outcomes.

Experts... what are your thoughts?


Thank You in advance.

Gamma
 
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Hmm..seems like you're just plotting a linear function of x

This might sound a bit daft, but to answer your question another way let's say I decide that the best way to graph a cosine wave between [itex]-\pi[/itex] and [itex]\pi[/itex] is to use the following functions...
[itex]y = (\frac {2}{\pi})^2 (x+ \pi)^2 -1[/itex] on the interval [ [itex]-\pi,\frac {-\pi}{2} ][/itex]

[itex]y = -(\frac {2}{\pi})^2 x^2 +1[/itex] on the interval [ [itex]\frac {-\pi}{2},\frac {\pi}{2}[/itex] ]and

[itex]y = (\frac {2}{\pi})^2 (x- \pi)^2 -1[/itex] on the interval [[itex]\frac{\pi}{2}, \pi[/itex]]

Just because the method I employ is totally ridiculous does it make [itex]y = (\frac {2}{\pi})^2 x^2 +1[/itex], [itex]y = (\frac {2}{\pi})^2 (x+ \pi)^2 -1[/itex], or[itex]y = (\frac {2}{\pi})^2 (x- \pi)^2 -1[/itex] any less functions of x? :smile:
 
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A function does not have to predict accurately the future outcomes. This a problem of modeling intelligently a situation.

A funtions is roughly defined as being a relation between to variables such as for each x, there is one and only one y which is associated to.

Hence, a linear relation between to variables is a function.

A circle does is not a function because for each x, there are two values of y that are associated. You must therefore take the upper (0,Pi) OR the lower (Pi, 2Pi) part of the circle to accurately describe it as a function.
 
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A function does not have to predict accurately the future outcomes. This a problem of modeling intelligently a situation.

Make sense. Thank you both for your thoughts. Regards,


Gamma.
 
Gagle The Terrible said:
A circle does is not a function because for each x, there are two values of y that are associated. You must therefore take the upper (0,Pi) OR the lower (Pi, 2Pi) part of the circle to accurately describe it as a function.
To be correct, a circle is a function, but is a function of two variables (x and y). A function is simply a mapping from one set (call it A) to another set (call it B) such that every element of A corresponds to only 1 element of B.
 
No, a "circle" is not a function! It is a geometric object. What, exactly, is the function of two variables, f(x,y), that you are associating with the circle?
 
Gamma said:
I have a set of data points to plot as graph.

X axis: Year
Y axis: Number of deaths due to cancer.

The graph is of parabolic shape opening to the right.
Well it seems to me that if you want to extrapolate the function then clearly it is not the best approach to use a linear function that includes the first and last point of your original function.

No because, two points in a set of data can not accurately predict the future outcomes.
That depends on the function that is inter/exra-polated. :smile:
If you were to plot number of cancer deaths per 1000 people per year, the function will become a lot flatter. Then you could go one step further and plot the growth of that number per year. Then your linear extrapolation would become a bit more meaningful.
 
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