Using bond energies to calculate energy changes

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around using bond energies to calculate energy changes for various chemical reactions. Participants analyze specific reactions, indicating whether they are endothermic or exothermic based on their calculations. The scope includes homework-related problem-solving and the application of bond energy concepts.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents calculations for three reactions, concluding that all are exothermic based on bond energy values.
  • Another participant questions the predominance of exothermic reactions, suggesting that they typically form more stable products.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about their breakdown of bond energies in one reaction, specifically regarding the bonds in CH3OH.
  • Another participant suggests drawing the Lewis structure to clarify the bonding in CH3OH, indicating a correction in the understanding of the C-O bond.
  • A later reply acknowledges a mistake in drawing the Lewis structure and thanks the participant for the clarification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the calculations for the reactions presented, but there is uncertainty regarding the breakdown of bond energies in one case. The discussion includes both agreement on the nature of exothermic reactions and individual doubts about specific calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the accuracy of their bond energy breakdowns and the implications of their calculations. There is a reliance on the correct interpretation of bond types and energies, which remains unresolved in some instances.

Who May Find This Useful

Students studying chemistry, particularly those focused on thermochemistry and bond energy calculations, may find this discussion relevant.

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Homework Statement



Use the bond energies (in Table 4.2) to calculate the energy changes associated with each of these reactions. In each case indicate whether the overall reaction is endothermic or exothermic. Be sure to show your calculation work.

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The Attempt at a Solution



A. H2(g) + O2(g) -----> H2O2(g) Answer: H2 is H-H (+436) and O2 is O=O (+498). Total energy in breaking bonds is 934 kJ. H2O2 is H-O=O-H (-467,-498,-467). Total in making bonds is -1432 kJ. Therefore, the net energy change is -498kJ, with the overall reaction being exothermic.

B. 2H2(g) + O2(g) -----> 2H2O(g) Answer: 2H2 is H-H (+436), H-H (+436). O2 is O=O (+498). Total energy in breaking bonds is +1370kJ. 2H20 is H-O-H (-467x2), H-O-H (-467x2). Total energy in making bonds is -1868kJ. Therefore, the net energy change is
-498kJ, with the overall reaction being exothermic.

C. 2H2(g) + CO(g) -----> CH3OH(g). Answer: H-H (+436), H-H (+436). CO is C=O (+1073). Total in breaking bonds is +1208. CH3OH is C-H (-416x3), C=O (-803), O-H (-467)

I find it strange that I came up with exothermic for all three of these...
 
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many more reactions are exothermic than endothermic. exothermic reaction tends to form more stable products, and hence are favoured by nature.
 
okay, that makes sense. I thought I had done my work right, but it seems usually there are examples of both things in such problems. Thanks for explaining that to me.
 
another question on this...did I do this correctly as far as how I broke it down: CH3OH is C-H (-416x3), C=O (-803), O-H (-467). I am doubing guessing myself!
 
draw the lewis structure. you will see that there are 3 C - H bonds (correct), 1 O - H bond (correct) but a C - O bond instead of C = O. the C - O bond is about 360 kJ.
 
I guess I totally drew that wrong:(Thanx for showing me the right way...
 

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