Using conservation of momentum to find final velocity in a collision

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a collision problem involving two cars of equal mass, where one car is traveling north and the other at an angle south of east. The objective is to find the final velocity of the combined mass after the collision using conservation of momentum principles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss breaking down the momentum equations into components for both the x and y directions. There is uncertainty about the correctness of the initial equations and whether the momentum of the second car in the x direction should be considered.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and corrections regarding the setup of the momentum equations. There is an acknowledgment of potential typos and misunderstandings about the momentum components, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach to the solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement, which requires expressing the final velocity in terms of given variables. There is an emphasis on ensuring the equations account for the correct directions of momentum.

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Homework Statement


Two cars, both of mass m, collide and stick together. Prior to the collision, one car had been traveling north at speed 2v, while the second was traveling at speed v at an angle \phisouth of east (as indicated in the figure). After the collision, the two-car system travels at speed vfinal at an angle \theta east of north.

Find the speed vfinal of the joined cars after the collision.
Express your answer in terms of v and \phi .

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Homework Equations



p=mv
pi=pf

The Attempt at a Solution


first i tried to break this down in terms of its components

in the x direction:
m1v1icos\phi =(m1+m2)Vfinalsin\theta

in the y direction:
m1v1sin\phi+m22v = (m1+m2)vfinalcos\theta

Now here is where I am starting to get mixed up. I have both of my components. (They may be wrong so please help me with those equations) Do I just solve both for vfinal and then square them and take the square root? Any insight is much appreciated.
 
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"in the x direction:m1v1icos + m2=(m1+m2)Vfinalsin"

I think maybe your equation got problem because direction x for v2 is zero so momentum for m2 also be zero.
If i m wrong please check it out ! thanks !
 
ah yes, i actually omitted that mass when i originally wrote it and then for some reason when looking at my paper i brought it back for some reason.. that was more or less a typo. i am aware that the second mass does not have momentum in the x direction, i will edit that.
 
If no going wrong my answer maybe like this:

First take it down then square both sides propose is remove the delta ,

(m1v1icos/(m1+m2)Vfinal)2 =sin2
-----1

[(m1v1sin+m22v)/(m1+m2)vfinal]2 = cos2----2

1+2 :

(m1v1icos/(m1+m2)Vfinal)2+[(m1v1sin+m22v)/(m1+m2)vfinal]2=1

After that take up [(m1+m2)Vfinal]2 shift it to right then remove the square so that my answer .
 
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