This question can be answered using the formula D=VT for both cyclists.

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The discussion focuses on a problem involving two cyclists, one of whom accelerates to catch the other after a delay. The key equations under consideration are D=VT for constant speed and D=1/2(V0 + V)t for scenarios involving acceleration. It is clarified that D=VT applies only when speed is constant, while average speed should be used for varying speeds. The confusion arises from incorrectly applying equations without considering the context of the problem. Ultimately, the correct approach involves calculating the distance traveled by both cyclists at the same time point to determine when the accelerating cyclist catches up.
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A bicylist is finishing his repair of a flat tire when a friend rides by a constant speed of 3.5 m/s. Two seconds later the bicylist hops on his bike and accelerates 2.4 m/s^2 until he catches his friend.

a) How much time does it take until he catches his friend?

What I did was:

v=v0 + at


solved for T..

V-V0/a = t

3.5 - 0/2.4 = 1.6s

(b) how far has he traveled?

Can I use D=VT? or should I use the formula x=x0 + 1/2(V0 + V)t?

I'm confused when I can use D=vt..
 
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The formula:

##d=vt##

should only be applied when ##v## is constant, otherwise you should use:

##d=\overline{v}t##

where ##\overline{v}## is the average speed. When there is constant acceleration, then we know:

##\overline{v}=\frac{v_i+v_f}{2}##
 
MarkFL said:
The formula:

##d=vt##

should only be applied when ##v## is constant, otherwise you should use:

##d=\overline{v}t##

where ##\overline{v}## is the average speed. When there is constant acceleration, then we know:

##\overline{v}=\frac{v_i+v_f}{2}##

can i use x=x0 + 1/2(V0 + V)t?
 
Turkishking said:
can i use x=x0 + 1/2(V0 + V)t?

Yes, if you'll notice we can write:

##d=\overline{v}t\tag{1}##

Now, suppose we use

##d=\Delta x=x-x_0,\,\overline{v}=\frac{v_0+v}{2}##

Then (1) becomes:

##x-x_0=\frac{v_0+v}{2}t##

or:

##x=x_0+\frac{v_0+v}{2}t##

So, the two formulas are really the same thing just written in different ways.
 
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MarkFL said:
Yes, if you'll notice we can write:

##d=\overline{v}t\tag{1}##

Now, suppose we use

##d=\Delta x=x-x_0,\,\overline{v}=\frac{v_0+v}{2}##

Then (1) becomes:

##x-x_0=\frac{v_0+v}{2}t##

or:

##x=x_0+\frac{v_0+v}{2}t##

So, the two formulas are really the same thing just written in different ways.
thank you :)
 
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Turkishking said:
3.5 - 0/2.4 = 1.6s
i presume you mean (3.5 - 0)/2.4.
That equation will tell you how long it takes for the cyclist to reach 3.5m/s, but that is not the question asked.
Your mistake is to apply equations just because they involve the right types of quantity, in this case an acceleration, a time and two speeds. An equation is meaningless divorced of the context to which it applies.
 
haruspex said:
i presume you mean (3.5 - 0)/2.4.
That equation will tell you how long it takes for the cyclist to reach 3.5m/s, but that is not the question asked.
Your mistake is to apply equations just because they involve the right types of quantity, in this case an acceleration, a time and two speeds. An equation is meaningless divorced of the context to which it applies.
So then what am I doing wrong
 
Turkishking said:
So then what am I doing wrong
I have told you what you did wrong. What you would like to know is what you should have done.
At time 0 the second cyclist passes the first. At time t, >2s, how far has each cyclist travelled?
 

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