Using Kepler's Laws to find the mass of a star

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The discussion revolves around using Kepler's Laws to determine the mass of a star based on the orbital radius and period of a planet. The original poster presents a problem involving a planet with a specified orbital radius and period, attempting to apply a relevant equation to find the star's mass.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of Kepler's equation, questioning the correctness of the original equation used by the poster. There are attempts to convert the orbital period from days to seconds, and some participants express uncertainty about the equation itself.

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Several participants have pointed out potential mistakes in the original approach, particularly regarding the equation and the unit conversion. There is ongoing exploration of the correct equation and its application, but no consensus has been reached on the correct method or solution.

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Participants note the importance of unit conversion, specifically the need to express the orbital period in seconds rather than days, as well as the potential misapplication of Kepler's equation.

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Homework Statement


In recent years, a number of nearby stars have been found to possesses planets. Suppose, the orbital radius of such a planet is found to be 4.9 1011 m, with a period of 1280 days. Find the mass of the star.


Homework Equations


T^2=4pi√((r^3)/Gm))


The Attempt at a Solution


(1280)^2=4pi√((4.9E11)^3/(6.67E-11)m)
1638400=4pi√((1.17649E35)/(6.67E-11)m)
1286796.351=√((1.17649E35)/(6.67E-11)m)
1.655844849E12=(1.17649E35)/(6.67E-11)m)
110.4448514m=6.67E-11
m=6.039E-13

I thought this was the right solution; however, I am not getting the correct answer as I am doing it online and it tells me I am doing it wrong. Am I using the wrong equation?
 
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I see at least two mistakes. The equation is wrong (c.f. Wikipedia); the period must be expressed in seconds, not days.
 
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jamesc5 said:
… with a period of 1280 days

(1280)^2=4pi√((4.9E11)^3/(6.67E-11)m)

days ! :wink:
 
voko said:
I see at least two mistakes. The equation is wrong (c.f. Wikipedia); the period must be expressed in seconds, not days.

I tried switching days to seconds and i got T=110592000 seconds so i changed my equation...

(11059200)^2=4pi√((4.9E11)^3)/(6.67E-11)m)
9.733E14=√((4.9E11)^3)/(6.67E-11)m)
9.473E29=((4.9E11)^3)/(6.67E-11)m)
(1.42E40)m=(4.9E11)^3
m=8.234E-6

I changed it to seconds, but I still don't seem to be getting the right answer.
 
The equation is start with is wrong. I mean this one: T^2=4pi√((r^3)/Gm)) As I said. look up the correct equation.
 

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